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Aurangzeb. Rupee, Mint: Surat. AH 110X ? RY 38
« on: September 11, 2019, 03:05:14 PM »
Weight-11.43gm, size-25-26 mm

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Re: Kindly help in attribution of silver coin
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2019, 07:59:44 PM »
Aurangzeb silver rupee, RY 38, AH 110X, where X is most likely 6 to correspond to RY 38. Except for the mint name, the coin matches fairly well to some of the  "type 300" rupees I see in "South Asian Coins & Paper Money". Hopefully someone else can identify the mint name and the exact coin.

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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2019, 08:04:59 PM »
Dear gokhale & Seeker55, the mint is Surat " ضرب سورت   Zarb Surat ", coin details:
Mughal, Emperor Aurangzeb, AH 1106 / RY38, Silver Rupee, Surat mint (AH 1068-1118 /1658-1607 AD)
Obverse: Legend (from bottom to top):
 “سکه زد در جهان چو بدر منیر شاه اورنگ زیب عالم گیر   “, Sikka zad dar Jahan chu badr Munir Shah Aurangzeb Alamgir. Meaning, (Struck money through the world like the shining moon, Shah Aurangzeb Alamgir)
Reverse: Legend (from top to bottom):
 “ مانوس ميمنت سنه ۳۸ جلوس ضرب سورت   “, Manus Maimanet, Sanah 38 Julus, zarb Surat, meaning, “Struck Surat in the 38th year of his prosperous reign”.

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Re: Kindly help in attribution of silver coin
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2019, 08:08:53 PM »
Well done, aws22! Knowing that the mint is Surat, the coin is KM 300.86, matches well. 

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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2019, 10:02:48 PM »
Thanks a lot sir

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Re: Aurangzeb. Rupee, Mint: Surat. AH 110X ? RY 38
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2021, 03:14:16 AM »
I have a question about the letters on the coin from above:



I circled three letters.

I am guessing that for the word "Sikkah", letter 3 is a Persian 'K', letter 2 is a Tashdid to make a double 'K', and letter 1 is an Alif.

Does this make any sense?

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Re: Aurangzeb. Rupee, Mint: Surat. AH 110X ? RY 38
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2021, 08:46:00 AM »
Dear WillieBoyd2, thank you for raising this issue regarding Arabic/Persian calligraphy. I will explain what the characters in the three circles mean:
Those are not numbers but Arabic marks belonging to the word " Sikkah سكة ":
Circle No. 1, is the Arabic diacritics ( ḥarakah حَرَكَة ), called ( fatḥah فَتْحَة ) means opening, and refers to the opening of the mouth when producing letter " K ك " of the word " Sikkah سكة ".
Circle No. 2, are two dots belonging to the end letter " T ة " of the word " Sikkah سكة ".
Circle No. 3, is a calligraphic stylized symbol of miniature letter " K ك " on top of the letter " K ك " of the word " Sikkah سكة ".
I hope that answers youe question.

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Re: Aurangzeb. Rupee, Mint: Surat. AH 110X ? RY 38
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2021, 09:05:02 PM »
aws22, thank you for the information about the special characters.

I do have another question, for Circle No. 2, does "Sikkah" end with an 'H' or a 'T'?

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Re: Aurangzeb. Rupee, Mint: Surat. AH 110X ? RY 38
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2021, 08:34:21 AM »
Thank you WillieBoyd2, the word " Sikkah سكة " is written with an end letter " T ة " in formal writing, but when hand written it is in the form of " H ه " and pronounced as " H "; however in calligraphy there are no such rules. It is Arabic or Persian writing in a stylized form. 

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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2021, 03:50:49 PM »
aws22, thank you again for the information about the special characters.

This is becoming interesting and I have another question.

The character I marked above with a red circle number 2 looks (to me) like an English 'W'.

I have seen two coin dealer photographs of other Aurangzeb Surat rupees which have a similar mark on the left side.


Aurangzeb Surat rupees dated 1091 and 1116 with 'W' marks circled

Could the 'W' be an Arabic shadda meaning a double letter Arabic 'K' in " Sikka ", like " سكّه "?

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Re: Aurangzeb. Rupee, Mint: Surat. AH 110X ? RY 38
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2021, 09:05:11 AM »
Thank you WillieBoyd2, this is another Arabic diacritics ( ḥarakah حَرَكَة ), called shadda or shaddah ( شَدَّة ), or tashdid ( تَشْدِيد ) (tashdīd), is a diacritic shaped like a small written Latin "w".
It is used to indicate gemination (consonant doubling or extra length), which is phonemic in Arabic. It is written above the consonant which is to be doubled. It is the only ḥarakah that is commonly used in ordinary spelling to avoid ambiguity.
Could the 'W' be an Arabic shadda meaning a double letter Arabic 'K' in " Sikka ", like " سكّه "?
Yes it is " Shaddah " above the letter " K ك " of the word " Sikkah سكّه ".

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Re: Aurangzeb. Rupee, Mint: Surat. AH 110X ? RY 38
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2021, 01:16:22 AM »
aws22, thank you for the information about the character 'W', the tashdid or shaddah.


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