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Started by Figleaf, August 31, 2019, 11:24:02 PM
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Quote from: gpimper on September 07, 2019, 09:04:17 PMAgree, not so much a fan.
Quote from: Figleaf on November 01, 2019, 06:31:37 PMHere's another aspect of US coins that differs from European usage. That bison's model was a bison. That Indian's model was an Indian. Both their names are known. Jump forward and you will find that on some US coin, an Indian woman posed as an Indian woman. In other words, there is a tendency to use models that don't need to dress up (at least in principle). Now think back to the three classical ladies made by people who studied and lived in Paris. Their three models all had to dress up and they didn't have a Greek classical nose either The person who first broke with the tradition of reflecting stuff as nature made it was Vincent van Gogh. He was succeeded by generations of impressionists, expressionists and unclassifiable modern artists, whose only common ground was that if you want a picture of things as how they look, use a camera and don't waste paint. What counts is not the exterior of the subject, but the idea, concept or emotion that is the subject. Sure enough, there are US exponents of modern art, but try to think of the best of them. Ever heard of Mary Cassatt or Frank Benson? Which US painter worked in the style of Picasso? Still, I am sure you heard of Andy Warhol, Ansel Adams and Norman Rockwell. What these three have in common is photographic precision.At this point, have a look at the portraits of queen Beatrix. Remember she is not an ornament on the reverse, but a symbol of the nation. There are still naturalistic portraits in European countries, but most are on the coins of the UK and its outposts. Denmark's queen Margarethe is natural on her coins also. She considers herself an artist and rumour is that had a hand in the design of the coins. Even Roty's portrait of the sower, dating from before the first world war, has now been adapted to modern art ideas on the French euro coins. You recognise naturalistic portraiture immediately because one ruler will need several portraits as the ruler gets older. No such need when you use a stylised portrait.So here is another example of how collectors from different parts of the world look differently on what contemporary style is. You like the nickel because you are used to seeing naturalistic style. The design is timeless to you. To a Western European, used to art that rejects natural precision, it looks old-fashioned. A coin collector may look at it, nod and like the wear on the nickel because it gives the portraits a nice "soft focus" quality.Peter