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Started by FosseWay, July 10, 2019, 12:37:44 PM

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FosseWay

The use of foreign copper coins for advertising was also common in Denmark, using Swedish (sometimes Norwegian or Finnish) 5 öre/penniä coins because defacing Danish coins was illegal.

Here are two I have. I have drawn a blank on locating Hotel Mollberg in Copenhagen; a Google search is frustrated by the current existence of a hotel by the same name in Helsingborg. Either way, there appears to be no such hotel any longer in Copenhagen.

Allan Dahl, owner of an advertising bureau, was prolific in his emission of countermarked Swedish coins. The website danskmoent.dk has this to say about him:

QuoteIndehaveren af dette annonce-bureau var ritmester Allan Aly Hendrik Dahl, han oprettede sit annoncebureau 1882-83 i Admiralgade København. På nogle af hans reklamemønter er der indslået K.A. måske skal dette stå for "Kjøbenhavns Annoncebureau". Firmaet blev benævnt "Annoncebureau for Permanent Avertissement." Han var kendt som lejer af Statsbanernes reklameskilte.

The owner of this advertising bureau was the cavalry captain Allan Aly Hendrik Dahl. He founded the business in 1882/3 on Admiralgade in Copenhagen. Some of his advertising coins show the counterstamp K.A., which may stand for Kjøbenhavns Annoncebureau". The firm was later named "Annoncebureau for Permanent Avertissement". He was known as a hirer of the state railways' advertising hoardings.

Figleaf

This may help. I may have stayed in this hotel on my first trip abroad, in 1958. I don't remember the name of the hotel, but I do remember the tramway and Vesterbrogade.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

JBK

Thx for the information (and translation!) on coins used in Denmark.

I have an Allan Dahl counterstamp but never knew the source.

brandm24

Quote from: FosseWay on July 10, 2019, 12:37:44 PM
The use of foreign copper coins for advertising was also common in Denmark, using Swedish (sometimes Norwegian or Finnish) 5 öre/penniä coins because defacing Danish coins was illegal.

Here are two I have. I have drawn a blank on locating Hotel Mollberg in Copenhagen; a Google search is frustrated by the current existence of a hotel by the same name in Helsingborg. Either way, there appears to be no such hotel any longer in Copenhagen.

Allan Dahl, owner of an advertising bureau, was prolific in his emission of countermarked Swedish coins. The website danskmoent.dk has this to say about him:

The owner of this advertising bureau was the cavalry captain Allan Aly Hendrik Dahl. He founded the business in 1882/3 on Admiralgade in Copenhagen. Some of his advertising coins show the counterstamp K.A., which may stand for Kjøbenhavns Annoncebureau". The firm was later named "Annoncebureau for Permanent Avertissement". He was known as a hirer of the state railways' advertising hoardings.

According to Brunk's listing in his reference, the Mollberg was located at 9 St. Kongensgade. He referenced (Jensen 1993) as his source. I'm not familiar with a Jensen reference, so can't verify it. Another example on a 1875 5 ore is engraved with the Lord's Prayer in Danish on the reverse, and a third known example has a second counterstamp applied "Landhotellete / 30 Landmemaerket 30". (1875 Swedish 5 ore). This second stamp also appears independently on 40+ Norwegian and Swedish coins. Apparently, they were competitors.

Allan Dahl's business, at least when it was known as the Bureau for permanent Advertisement was at 26 Trollesgade. There are 60+ examples of his counterstamp known. One example has an added stamp "J.H. Pohlmann". I have no information on the identity of Pohlmann.

Bruce

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FosseWay

Excellent, thank you for the extra info both!  :)

brandm24

The Jensen reference used by Brunk is listed in his bibliography as: Jensen, Carl-Erik / Nordiske Monter i Reklamens Tjeneste. Viborg

I also found three other hotels in Copenhagen that issued counterstamped coins. Hotel Faxe at 11 Larsbjornstraede, the Landmans at 28 Landemaerket, and the Metropole at 55 Radhuspladsen. I believe all this information came from the Jensen reference as well.

Bruce
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Henk

I have a Danish counterstamp on a Swedish 5 Ore from 1898. The counterstamp reads:
LAND HOTELLET / -.- / 30 LANDEMAERKET 30.
In Brunk (I have the first edition from 1989) two counterstamps from this hotel are listed:
52675: LANDMANDS - HOTELLETE / -.- / LANDEMAERKET
52680: LANDMANDS - HOTELLETE / -.- / 30 LANDEMAERKET 30

Obviously mine is from the same hotel but the name is slightly different
Landemaerket is a street in Copenhagen. I could not find any information about the hotel

Figleaf

See reply #3. I presume the missing T there is a typo.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

brandm24

Quote from: Henk on June 12, 2022, 09:44:27 AMI have a Danish counterstamp on a Swedish 5 Ore from 1898. The counterstamp reads:
LAND HOTELLET / -.- / 30 LANDEMAERKET 30.
In Brunk (I have the first edition from 1989) two counterstamps from this hotel are listed:
52675: LANDMANDS - HOTELLETE / -.- / LANDEMAERKET
52680: LANDMANDS - HOTELLETE / -.- / 30 LANDEMAERKET 30

Obviously mine is from the same hotel but the name is slightly different
Landemaerket is a street in Copenhagen. I could not find any information about the hotel
There are some examples known that were struck with a broken die. The D is missing and reads Lan-emaerket. Maybe yours is an example of another damaged die or just an error by the die cutter. It happens more often than you would think.

Bruce
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Henk

I do not think it is a damaged die or an error on the part of the die cutter as the words are evenly spaced and no damage is visible. The wordt LAND however is somewhat thinner than the rest of the lettering so maybe this was added later to a corrected die.

brandm24

Yes, that's possible.

Bruce
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