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Monaco 2019: Prince Honoré IV
« on: May 15, 2019, 12:16:13 PM »
Some time this year Monaco will issue a commemorative €2 coin honoring Prince Honoré IV who died 200 years ago. When France annexed Monaco in 1793, shortly after the revolution, Honoré was arrested in Paris for about 20 years. Once Napoleon was defeated, Talleyrand - suddenly being a loyal French royalist - suggested that Honoré should get his principality back, and the Vienna Congress made that decision. The coin will probably have a mintage of 15,000. More "later" ...

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Re: Monaco 2019: Prince Honoré IV
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2019, 06:45:43 PM »
The coin will be available as from Thursday (12 Sep). Not sure about the price but from what I have read, the coin plus postage will be roughly €150 ...

Quote from the Numismatic Office's website: "A beautiful 2 € proof coin will soon be available for sale, the limited issue allows only one purchase per person registered." An image of the piece is attached; have not seen a larger one yet.

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Re: Monaco 2019: Prince Honoré IV
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2019, 07:18:25 PM »
Not sure about the price but from what I have read, the coin plus postage will be roughly €150 ..

Maybe it is about time that collectors unite again like we did in 2013. At least back then following the pressure some improvements were made. As you know amongst others suddenly a 2 euro commemorative of Monaco was released into general circulation for the first time ever.

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Monaco 2019: Prince Honoré IV
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2019, 01:16:02 PM »
Yet another coin from Monaco to ignore... ;D

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Re: Monaco 2019: Prince Honoré IV
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2019, 11:59:51 PM »
Agreed, I do not need this either. FWIW, apparently the MTM charged €120 for the coin (mintage 15,000 is right) plus €35 for shipping (MC > DE). And from what I have read, the website where you could order was performing abysmally again. ;) Another problem is that the MTM does, for whichever reason, not accept certain credit cards. In a German forum people tried to find the pattern behind what Monaco thinks is OK, card wise, and what they do not like.

(Edit) In that forum, 30 cases of non-accepted credit cards (both MC and Visa) were reported, mostly Sparkasse (in AT and DE), Volksbank and DKB (in DE) cards. Will probably not have anything to do with changes mandated by the European Union's PSD2, as this has happened in previous years too. One member suggested this could be a communication problem between Atos (the payment processing service used by the MTM) and the issuing banks (which may not be up-to-date with regard to modern security features). Who knows ...

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