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Offline chrisild

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Counterfeiting Shopping "Coupons"
« on: April 26, 2019, 04:50:55 PM »
In Bad Ischl (O, Austria) they have gift vouchers that can be used at various stores, but only in that city. The idea is to encourage local purchases - anyway, these vouchers are round and metallic. :) They are called "Ischler Gulden" and you can buy them in three different denominations or values: 10, 20 or 50.

However, now several counterfeited "50 gulden coins" have been found. Some store wanted to turn seven in at a local bank, but they turned out to not be authentic. The police then investigated at all participating businesses and found a total of 21 counterfeited gulden pieces. (Article in German)

Question is, who made those copies, and will those who accepted them get any money back. The article notes that in the case of counterfeited cash you don't get anything ...

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Re: Counterfeiting Shopping "Coupons"
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2019, 06:38:24 PM »
The high denomination makes them attractive for petty criminals. If people (especially shopkeepers) were rational, they would stop accepting the tokens. There must be more than 21 around. If they get nothing in return for a bad token, the risk has become far higher than the reward.

Whodunit? Don't know. Possibly, this is a clue: there are fake beer tokens used in Dutch pop festivals. They are made in China. Local fraudsters can buy them through the internet. You just need to send one copy.

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Re: Counterfeiting Shopping "Coupons"
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2019, 06:51:35 PM »
How can anyone in their right mind think it is a good idea to issue these tokens with such high denominations. I can not understand that over the course of a decade no-one ever came to the conclusion that this may just not be such a good idea. It is just completely ridiculous and it serves them right that this has happened. They can be very happy with the bank employee that this was discovered in such an early stage with reasonably little damage to the local shops and only a very small profit for the counterfeiters.

In the Netherlands similar initiatives were popular between roughly 1990 and 2005, but all of these tokens could only be issued with permission of the Dutch National Bank and they were only legal tender for a very limited time.

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Re: Counterfeiting Shopping "Coupons"
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2019, 07:31:17 PM »
In the Netherlands similar initiatives were popular between roughly 1990 and 2005, but all of these tokens could only be issued with permission of the Dutch National Bank and they were only legal tender for a very limited time.

These Bad Ischl vouchers are not and have never been legal tender. And yes, they may well be replaced by plastic cards now. Or just given up altogether. Oh well ... ::)

Christian