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Re: Coinage of Madagascar
« Reply #60 on: March 10, 2019, 11:40:32 PM »
I quote your text:

This new privy mark, a “bee”, can be seen on the Republic of Madagascar 5 Francs of 1996 (KM-21). This is a strong suggestion that all Madagascar/Malagasy pieces of denominations 1, 2 and 5 Francs in Stainless Steel have always been made in France and hence never by the RCM. As for the other 1990’s circulation coins of Madagascar - there is various evidence that they are all products of the RCM.

I missed that part! Admittedly mints and privy marks are not my strong point, but others will be interested.
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Re: Coinage of Madagascar
« Reply #61 on: March 11, 2019, 10:28:44 AM »
The Russian Goznak has been expanding their coin export business and I quite recently read somewhere that Madagascar is one of their new clients. That probably means that there will be new dates or possibly even new types coming soon.
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Re: Coinage of Madagascar
« Reply #62 on: March 11, 2019, 11:41:34 AM »
That would be very interesting. Madagascar really needs a new modern set, whose designs have a unity of style. The current series is old-fashioned and disjointed.
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Re: Coinage of Madagascar
« Reply #63 on: March 11, 2019, 12:31:38 PM »
Very interesting news indeed!

From a press release of Goznak of 18 January 2018:

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Meanwhile, thanks to the completion of a large-scale modernization at the Moscow Mint last year, the company has also achieved significant advance in the international coin market – last year Goznak received    orders for the production of small coins for the central banks of Columbia, Zambia and Madagascar.

So in 2017 they received these orders.
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Re: Coinage of Madagascar
« Reply #64 on: March 11, 2019, 12:57:45 PM »
hello t
you are right he last coins minted are
2 ariary 2003
1 ariary 2004 and
50 ariary 2005
after no coins but new notes and new value ,the biggest 20 000 ariary
Best regards Gerard

Coins of 10 and 50 ariary dated 2016 were issued too.

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Re: Coinage of Madagascar
« Reply #65 on: March 11, 2019, 01:05:14 PM »
In 2016, both 10 and 50 Ariary were issued.

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Re: Coinage of Madagascar
« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2019, 01:13:41 PM »




More about how the denomination is shown on Madagascan coins. Traditionally, when humans read vertically, they read from top to bottom. So, looking at the coins above, you would read "ariary five, ariary ten", and so on.





Now look at the coin above. You see "ariary roa". Therefore, it is clear that Madagascans, in their own language, place the adjectival numeral after the noun: "ariary two", rather than the "two ariary" that you would see in English and most European languages. Of course, it is common in some languages to place general adjectives after the noun: the French say "une maison blanche", but the English say "a white house".





And in 2004 Madagascar released the coin above. It is clear in which direction the denominations (as shown in the textual part of the design) are going. But are they all uniform now? I think not.

 
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Re: Coinage of Madagascar
« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2019, 01:51:31 PM »
Here we see another difference in the presentation of the designs. The 10 and 20 ariary coins include a circle of beads (or dots or pearls) on the reverse. The 50 ariary coin does not. The 10 and 20 ariary designs originated at the Royal Mint (UK), whilst the 50 ariary design was the work of the Royal Canadian Mint. So, there is quite a lack of uniformity in the features of the current Madagascan coinage.
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« Reply #68 on: March 11, 2019, 01:54:16 PM »
Another point: in some cases the denomination appears on both sides of the coin (5, 10, 20 and 50 ariary). In other cases, the word "ARIARY" sometimes appears in lower case, sometimes in upper case.
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« Reply #69 on: March 11, 2019, 04:30:43 PM »


10 francs / 2 ariary 1970.





20 francs / 4 ariary 1970.



Let's look back at some of the older designs.

Look at the privy marks here: one appears at bottom left; the other appears at middle right.
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« Reply #70 on: March 11, 2019, 04:31:59 PM »


The 10 francs / 2 ariary of the 1990s has no privy mark.
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« Reply #71 on: March 11, 2019, 04:42:07 PM »
Here you see the two different obverse of the 5 francs / 1 ariary coins of 1965 and 1996.

Apart from the different legends, there are different fonts too, most noticeably for the year. One font seems to be larger than the other, too, with regard to the legend.
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Re: Coinage of Madagascar
« Reply #72 on: March 11, 2019, 04:57:33 PM »


And here is the obverse (left) with the mint marks / privy marks, flanking the year.
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« Reply #73 on: March 11, 2019, 05:00:24 PM »
Let's look at the reverse of the 1, 2 and 5 francs of 1965.

On the 1 and 2 francs, the denomination covers part of the zebu's horns. That is not the case with the 5 francs, because the denomination name is shorter. However, on the 5 francs the word "ARIARY" appears at the bottom, so to make room for it, the two sprigs have been pushed apart.
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« Reply #74 on: March 11, 2019, 05:05:03 PM »
On the 10 and 20 francs of 1970, the privy marks have been pushed down. They now appear either side of the zebu's snout.

The two sprigs have been pushed somewhat higher up now, in order to leave space for the long literal versions of the denomination names.
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