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Ottoman Empire (?)
« on: May 17, 2019, 07:32:37 AM »
Hey,

My wild guess that it is an Ottoman Empire coin used as jewellery.

Would appreciate any help with the identification.

Weight: 0,4 g
Diameter: 15,2 mm


Thanks a lot in advance!

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Re: Ottoman Empire (?)
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2019, 07:59:00 AM »
The right hand picture is upside down.

I wonder whether I can see the digits 87 at the bottom (when correctly oriented) of the right hand picture. 1187 H is the accession year of Sultan Abdul Hamid I (1774).

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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2019, 11:05:25 AM »
Thanks a lot! This is the correct image.
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Re: Ottoman Empire (?)
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2019, 11:09:43 AM »
I wonder whether I can see the digits 87 at the bottom (when correctly oriented) of the right hand picture. 1187 H is the accession year of Sultan Abdul Hamid I (1774).

Most probably it is Para, Abdülhamid I, Kostantiniyye mint, 1187 (1773) ۱٢ (Para - Abdülhamid I (Kostantiniyye mint) - Ottoman Empire ? Numista)
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2019, 12:03:53 PM »
 mint" Kostantiniyye" is called here : "Islambul"
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Re: Ottoman Empire (?)
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2019, 12:07:43 PM »
I'm now less sure about 1187. The 7 is pretty clear but I can't make what comes before an 8. Agree on regnal year 12 though.

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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2019, 02:07:06 PM »
I think that the toughra belongs to Mustafa III and that the date is likely 1171
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Re: Ottoman Empire (?)
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2019, 04:42:46 PM »
Dear Alexander, your coin details:
Ottoman, Mustafa III, AH 1171/82 (1769 AD), 1 Para, Islambol (Kostantiniyye) mint, KM 296.2 (1762-1774)
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Obverse: Tughra of Mustafa III in center, without dot beside Tughra.
Reverse: Legend: On top: “ 82  ٨٢ ” , Durebe fi İslambol 1171 , " ضرب في إسلامبول ١١٧١  "

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Re: Ottoman Empire (?)
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2019, 04:47:32 PM »
Dear cam, your coin details:
Ottoman, Mustafa III, AH 1171/82 (1769 AD), 1 Para, Islambol (Kostantiniyye) mint, KM 296.2 (1762-1774)
Metal Billion
Obverse: Tughra of Mustapha III in center, without dot beside Tughra.
Reverse: Legend: On top: “ 82  ٨٢ ” , Durebe fi İslambol 1171 , " ضرب في إسلامبول ١١٧١  "

Dear Maythem, thanks a lot!

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Re: Ottoman Empire (?)
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2019, 07:35:49 PM »
Dear Alexander, your coin details:
Ottoman, Mustafa III, AH 1171/82 (1769 AD), 1 Para, Islambol (Kostantiniyye) mint, KM 296.2 (1762-1774)
Metal Billon
Obverse: Tughra of Mustapha III in center, without dot beside Tughra.
Reverse: Legend: On top: “ 82  ٨٢ ” , Durebe fi İslambol 1171 , " ضرب في إسلامبول ١١٧١  "

Then it is this coin: 1 Para - Mustafa III (Islambol mint) - Ottoman Empire ? Numista

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Re: Ottoman Empire (?)
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2019, 08:24:26 PM »
Yes, thank you Alexander

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Re: Ottoman Empire (?)
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2019, 04:47:18 AM »
Possibly.  Could be a Crusader fake based on the weight.  Cool old coin though :-)
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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2019, 07:10:51 AM »
Possibly.  Could be a Crusader fake based on the weight.  Cool old coin though :-)

Yep, but holed, unfortunately.
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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2019, 12:14:38 PM »
Could be a Crusader fake based on the weight.  Cool old coin though :-)
it would be very surprising! in 1171 AH , the last crusader had been dead for nearly five centuries....  ;)
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Re: Ottoman Empire (?)
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2019, 03:14:27 AM »
Missed the AH, sorry
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