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Islamic Ae Ottoman? Persian? South Asian? 19.39 mm 5.4g
« on: November 28, 2018, 09:58:53 PM »
I received an interesting Islamic Ae amongst a small lot of Byzantine coins.  It measures 19.39 mm and weighs 5.4 g.  It appear Ottoman to me.  All help would be appreciated.  Pogh_poor

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Re: Islamic Ae Ottoman? Persian? South Asian? 19.39 mm 5.4g
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2018, 11:59:02 PM »
That's an interesting overstrike, if you look at the lower photo you can see what appears to be part of the scales of justice ?
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Re: Islamic Ae Ottoman? Persian? South Asian? 19.39 mm 5.4g
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2018, 01:34:55 AM »
Could it be an overstrike of a coin of Zanzibar with the scales?

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Re: Islamic Ae Ottoman? Persian? South Asian? 19.39 mm 5.4g
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2018, 11:12:23 AM »
Could it be an overstrike of a coin of Zanzibar with the scales?


Zanzibar coins would be machine struck whereas this coin is hammered, possibly overstruck on a Presidency Pice

Here is an example of an Iranian coin with the scales, are type from Bihbihan mint
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Re: Islamic Ae Ottoman? Persian? South Asian? 19.39 mm 5.4g
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2018, 12:07:30 PM »
this coin is hammered, possibly overstruck on a Presidency Pice

I agree... and to comfort this possibility, aren'they remains of the word 'adl at 6-7 o'clock ?
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Re: Islamic Ae Ottoman? Persian? South Asian? 19.39 mm 5.4g
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2018, 12:15:14 PM »
I agree... and to confort this possibility, aren'they remains of the word 'adl at 6-7 o'clock ?


Can you make out the large character on the overstrike saro?  I tried to find a trace of the UEIC balemark on th eother side but no luck
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Re: Islamic Ae Ottoman? Persian? South Asian? 19.39 mm 5.4g
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2018, 02:27:23 PM »
Can you make out the large character on the overstrike saro? 

It seems to me that looks a little like a flattened " ij " of "Raij"  ???
on the other face, it seems that there is a date under "zarb" : 12xx ?
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Re: Islamic Ae Ottoman? Persian? South Asian? 19.39 mm 5.4g
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2018, 01:11:29 PM »
So it appears that the underlying coin is a Persian Civic copper, correct?  Would the overstrike be contemporaneous? 

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Re: Islamic Ae Ottoman? Persian? South Asian? 19.39 mm 5.4g
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2018, 01:33:06 PM »
So it appears that the underlying coin is a Persian Civic copper, correct?  Would the overstrike be contemporaneous?


Unlikely, it more likely an East India Pice
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Re: Islamic Ae Ottoman? Persian? South Asian? 19.39 mm 5.4g
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2018, 10:42:14 PM »
I tried to find a trace of the UEIC balemark on th eother side but no luck

I am not certain but I think that I can see a part of the heart shape of the balemark and a small part of a remaining letter " C"??
and from the overstamp (not clear, I agree... ::)) " Erivan "  could be possible  ???
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