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Offline maudry

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Qajar, Fath 'Ali Shah, 1233 AH, Gold Toman - Shiraz mint
« on: November 19, 2018, 09:40:22 PM »
Nice large gold coin.
Size: 24mm
Weight: 4.63gr
« Last Edit: November 20, 2018, 11:56:47 AM by saro »

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Re: Qajar, Fath 'Ali Shah, 1232 AH, Gold Toman
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2018, 11:11:00 PM »
 :applause: :perfect: ....
(date is 1233 AH)
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Re: Qajar, Fath 'Ali Shah, 1233 AH, Gold Toman
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2018, 03:53:46 AM »
Dear maudry, nice coin:
Qajar, Fath 'Ali Shah, 1233 AH, Gold Toman, Dar al-‘Ilm Shiraz mint (1212-1250 AH)(1797-1834 AD)
Obverse: السّلطان ابن السّلطان فتحعلی شاه قاجار, ”al-Sultan ibn al-Sultan Fath 'Ali Shah Qajar”.
Reverse: Mint place and date inside decorated circle:
ضرب دارالعلم شیراز , struck at Dar al-‘Ilm Shiraz. Date is at the bottom “ 1233 ۱۲۳۳ ”.
Similar to my coin posted on June 23, 2018 but with Yazd mint:
http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,42947.0.html

Maythem
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Re: Qajar, Fath 'Ali Shah, 1233 AH, Gold Toman - Shiraz mint
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2018, 10:49:19 PM »
Thank you Maythem,
Yes I had seen you coin.

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Re: Qajar, Fath 'Ali Shah, 1233 AH, Gold Toman - Shiraz mint
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2019, 05:54:19 PM »
Here is another one from the same die-pair.
Size: 24mm
Weight: 4.63gr

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Re: Qajar, Fath 'Ali Shah, 1233 AH, Gold Toman - Shiraz mint
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2019, 06:40:37 PM »
I agree, Maudry. Amazing!

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Re: Qajar, Fath 'Ali Shah, 1233 AH, Gold Toman - Shiraz mint
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2019, 10:53:00 PM »
My example from a different pair of dies and a different mint, Yazd. Album 2865; SICA 9, 1693 (same dies), 4.61 gm, 25 mm.

Album says:
'In the late 1960s, an immense hoard almost exclusively of this type reached the market, allegedly from the Soviet Union. Its terminal date is 1235 and it was said to have contained at least 10,000 specimens, though that quantity cannot be confirmed. By far the most common piece in the hoard was Yazd 1233, though tomans of other mints & dates were also found in large numbers.' That must have been quite something to see ;D

I have always assumed that this piece was from that hoard, and perhaps yours were as well: it is far more likely to see die-duplication from a hoard.

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Re: Qajar, Fath 'Ali Shah, 1233 AH, Gold Toman - Shiraz mint
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2019, 02:42:02 AM »
Dear Alan, the figure 10,000 you have mentioned is it the number of specimens or the coin equivalent of 1 Gold Toman = 10,000 Dinars? because this coin (4.600 gm) was equivalent to 10,000 Dinars at the time of issue.

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Re: Qajar, Fath 'Ali Shah, 1233 AH, Gold Toman - Shiraz mint
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2019, 10:06:52 AM »
Definitely 10,000 coins, not 10,000 dinars: it must have made an impressive pile :)

[edit] Just did a quick calculation, that's over 46 kilos!

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Re: Qajar, Fath 'Ali Shah, 1233 AH, Gold Toman - Shiraz mint
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2019, 11:45:21 AM »
Thank you Alan.

Maythem
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