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Recent Ukrainian Additions
« on: November 01, 2018, 03:14:14 PM »
Received these Ukrainian commemorative coins couple of weeks back. Very dull designs IMO.

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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2018, 03:14:48 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2018, 03:15:16 PM »
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Re: Recent Ukrainian Additions
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2018, 04:51:26 PM »
I was intrigued by the silhouetted warship. It is obviously not a modern vessel. I think it is a dreadnought of the Gangut class. Though the 1912 illustration on Wikipedia shows the masts as of equal height, the photo on the same page shows that they were different looking aerials of unequal height only a few years later. If they were reconstructed, the reason may have been the battle of Jutland, where the UK fleet failed to co-ordinate because several commanders felt disdain for radio communications.

You are supposed to think that the ship is Sevastopol. Read the lemma on this ship to understand why Ukraine would place a 100 year old Russian ship on one of its coins. Keep in mind also, that Sebastopol is the flash point of the ongoing conflict between Ukraine and Russia, following Russia's invasion in 2014. See also the following coin, which shows an outline of the Krim peninsula.

I hope you find the design less dull now. ;)

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Re: Recent Ukrainian Additions
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2018, 05:17:45 PM »
Anyone know if these are these circulating commems?
always willing to trade modern UK coins for modern coins from elsewhere....

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Re: Recent Ukrainian Additions
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2018, 09:08:50 PM »
Anyone know if these are these circulating commems?

yes, i would like to know too. on ebay, these are going for about $1 to $1.49 on buy it now

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Re: Recent Ukrainian Additions
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2018, 10:13:51 PM »
Received these Ukrainian commemorative coins couple of weeks back. Very dull designs IMO.
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Ukraine has excellent designers and the coins of Ukraine were several times recognized as the best coin of the year in the world. Look on the internet.
But these coins have a different purpose - to show historical facts.
If you do not have time to find additional information, I will tell you about these coins here.

Coin number 1.
The obverse shows the ship "Volya" (this can be translated from Ukrainian as "Freedom".).
The ship was built in Nikolaev 04/02/1914.
Type - battleship.
He was a member of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.
In 1918, after the proclamation of the independent Ukrainian People's Republic, the Ukrainian flag was hoisted on the battleship.
After the Bolsheviks seized Ukraine, the battleship came under the command of the White Army and in 1920 participated in the evacuation of the White Guards from the Crimea.
The battleship was based in Tunisia and in 1936 was dismantled for scrap.
In 1942, the Germans installed a few guns of this ship on the battery "Mirus", on the island of Guernsey in the English Channel,
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Re: Recent Ukrainian Additions
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2018, 08:53:44 PM »
Coin number 2.
Obverse: Phoenix bird and two swords.
Reverse: Map of Ukraine and the inscription " Who If Not Us".
"Ukrainian Dobrovolets Day"
Dobrovolets - a person who entered military service on his own will. 
On the photo image of a badge "Ukraine - Dobrovolets "

Ukrainian Dobrovolets Day - is celebrated on March 14 and is dedicated to the events of March 2014.
On March 14, 2014, the first Dobrovolets Battalion was created in Ukraine.

Before that, several months in Ukraine there were many thousands of meetings against the ruling regime and President Yanukovych.
As a result, Yanukovych fled from Ukraine to Russia and on March 1, 2014 he wrote to Putin about the introduction of Russian troops in Ukraine and the restoration of Yanukovych’s power. In 2014, Russia occupied the Crimea and part of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine.

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Re: Recent Ukrainian Additions
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2018, 07:05:36 PM »
Coin number 3.
"Cyborgs".
The coin was issued in memory of the battles for Donetsk airport.
On May 26, 2014, Russian troops occupied the new terminal of Donetsk airport and on this day there was a battle between Ukrainian and Russian soldiers.
After the battle, the Russians left the airport, but the attacks continued for 8 months (242 days). Defenders of the airport in Ukraine called "Cyborgs" ("Iron" peoples). They repelled many attacks by Russian troops and left the airport after the destruction of airport structures.
See photos before defense and after
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Re: Recent Ukrainian Additions
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2018, 07:17:24 PM »
Now there are no active fights. Russia is conducting a "hybrid" war on the entire front line.
Occupied 7% of the territory of Ukraine.
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2018, 07:50:11 AM »
I did not expect so many interesting replies to my post, thank you everyone! :)

Having known the history behind these coins, I certainly like these coins now!

Only one unanswered questions: Do these coins circulate?

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Re: Recent Ukrainian Additions
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2018, 07:59:21 AM »
Only one unanswered questions: Do these coins circulate? Aditya

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Re: Recent Ukrainian Additions
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2018, 03:19:35 PM »
Now there are no active fights. Russia is conducting a "hybrid" war on the entire front line.
Occupied 7% of the territory of Ukraine.

Didn't realise the open fighting had ended, but I am grateful to hear it. The way to convince people is not to shoot and kill, but to be the more succesful country. One clear example (there are more) is North and South Korea. When they were separated through stupid international violence, North Korea was the richer and more developed part. Today, South Koreans are by very far better off, while North Korea's chairman Kim, presiding over terror, injustice and occasional hunger, is the laughing stock of the world minus Trump. It is a great model for Ukraine. If the Ukraine can establish a politically stable state based on the rule of law, where graft is brought under control and merit is rewarded, it will be able to offer what Putin Russia cannot ever offer: an example its neighbours are jealous of. That, more than violence will create forces for re-integration.

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Re: Recent Ukrainian Additions
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2018, 04:06:09 PM »
I agree, Peter.
But there are many nuances in relations between Ukraine and Russia.
Ukraine has been part of the Russian Empire and the USSR for about 200 years and has many problems inherited.
The main problem is that Russia still considers Ukraine as part of its empire and uses any methods to create a pro-Russian political stratum inside Ukraine. This is a great brake for achieving the goals you write about.
But I believe in the prosperity of Ukraine.
It will be!
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