Java (British occupation) 1 Rupee

[Mark240590]

Hi,

This is the first coin I've bought for 17 months after deciding to sell my British colonial collection off after having my son. I've since decided I love how crude the British occupation coins are and therefore I'll be keeping this small collection.

Anyway, could any of you kind folk help me identify the type of this Rupee ? I think it might be 1668 variety. It's a little larger than my 1229 issue, but I'd expect that given the fact some details are missing on my original coin. It weighs 12g.

Kind regards,

Mark.


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[Mark240590]

Hi,

This is the first coin I've bought for 17 months after deciding to sell my British colonial collection off after having my son. I've since decided I love how crude the British occupation coins are and therefore I'll be keeping this small collection.

Anyway, could any of you kind folk help me identify the type of this Rupee ? I think it might be 1668 variety. It's a little larger than my 1229 issue, but I'd expect that given the fact some details are missing on my original coin. It weighs 12g.

Kind regards,

Mark.


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Sorry, just realised I never attached any images. How embarrassing.


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[Figleaf]

That's Scholten 592d, ropij 1228 AH/1740 AS (1813AD) with T for the two in the date. You might interpret that as a six, I suppose, but I think Scholten is right by taking it for a sloppy 2.

While you are right that the coin was struck under British rule, the mint staff remained the same. engraver was Mainim, a Javanese, mint master Zwekkert, a Dutchman. The model for the Arabic side is a Bengal rupee, arguably not a British coin In fact, the same type was struck even when the British had already left again (1232AH). Therefore, they are a British responsibility, but they are not very British.

Peter

[Mark240590]

Hi Peter,

Thanks for the reference. I struggled to find anything for it from an English resource.

I'm aware that the Rupee has the Bengal reverse and about the mint info. I would argue it is a British Colonial coin though simply because they minted Bengal presidency rupees and this looks nothing like the Dutch issues (except of course the later issues you mentioned with the M on)

Thanks again though,

Mark.


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[Figleaf]

Just to note that Scholten is available in English. Check the usual suspects for a second hand copy if you want one.

Peter

[Mark240590]

Just to note that Scholten is available in English. Check the usual suspects for a second hand copy if you want one.

Peter

Cheers mate, I'll see if I can find one. I'll probably let this one go then..


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[Figleaf]

Why would you? I thought it was just good fun to note the relativity of a coin's nationality. You can make a similar "double nationality" point for other coins. I didn't mean to cofuse.

Peter

[Mark240590]

Why would you? I thought it was just good fun to note the relativity of a coin's nationality. You can make a similar "double nationality" point for other coins. I didn't mean to cofuse.

Peter

No of course mate. I just don't really need a second Rupee to be honest. I can probably turn a decent profit on it too. I love debate no matter what


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[Oesho]

I  can't think of it that this coin is genuine, but most likely a contemporary local imitation. Too much errors in the calligraphy.