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Re: Germany: 2 Cent 2018 D
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2018, 11:38:46 AM »
What was unclear was the effect, if any, it would have on the designs themselves

Indeed. While the modification itself was neither "trumpeted" nor "kept secret", the effects on the look of the coins was a surprise for me too. Particularly so on the national sides.

Attached is a screenshot from a European Commission presentation at the ATMIA Conference (London, June 2017) that I posted elsewhere before. Note how the part "no impact on cash handling" is underlined. And the press release that redlock posted here even says: "Die Änderungen sind rein technischer Art und für die Öffentlichkeit nicht zu erkennen, denn das Aussehen der Münzen [bleibt] unverändert." That is, "the changes are of merely technical nature and not recognizable for the public, as the look of the coins remains unchanged."

That may be true for most of the general public. But not for a coin collector with the eyes of a hawk. ;)

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Re: Germany: 2 Cent 2018 D
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2018, 04:49:49 PM »
So far i found seven pieces of this variant from Hamburg and Karlsruhe mint.
Four in my small change plus three in a 100 from two bank rolls.

2016 G - 1 specimen
2017 G - 3
2017 J - 2
2018 J - 1



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Re: Germany: 2 Cent 2018 D
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2018, 07:40:00 PM »
For collectors the changeover is a complete mess. One country makes changes to the obverse, some make changes to the reverse but most countries have as yet not made any changes at all. I have the following information on recent changes apparently made to reduce the loss on the production of the euro coins:

Ammended reverse:

Italy 2017: 1 and 2 euro cent
Austria 2017: 2 euro cent (issued with both old and new reverse)
Austria 2018: 2 euro cent

Ammended obverse:

Germany 2 euro cents:

2016: G
2017: A, G, J
2018: D, F, J

Let's see if we can find some further ones.
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Re: Germany: 2 Cent 2018 D
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2018, 12:54:16 AM »
The most important thing is, do the old and new obverses or reverses coincide? Do they mix? Are there differend combinations?

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Re: Germany: 2 Cent 2018 D
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2018, 07:37:12 AM »
The most important thing is, do the old and new obverses or reverses coincide? Do they mix? Are there different combinations?

Does a "Germany new reverse" exist, does is distinguish significantly from the old one?

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Re: Germany: 2 Cent 2018 D
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2018, 05:13:21 PM »
If they coincide/mix I'm interested! (i.e. same year, both versions)

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Re: Germany: 2 Cent 2018 D
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2018, 09:47:57 PM »
Does a "Germany new reverse" exist, does is distinguish significantly from the old one?

 ???

The coin that I started this thread with has a reverse that is AFAICS identical with that of earlier coins. But given the haphazard nature of the way this change has been handled, I can't rule out the possibility that my coin has a new obverse and old reverse, and that there are other coins out there with a reverse that is notably different.

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Re: Germany: 2 Cent 2018 D
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2018, 10:55:47 AM »
Hi,

that's very interesting. I've just asked Tom Michael from SCWC, if he plans to make any changes to KM numbers because of this. If he ever answers back I'll let you know.

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If you're interested in coin variants please find some English documentation here:
https://sites.google.com/site/coinvarietiescollection/home
and in French on Michel's site (the presentations are not the same):
http://monnaiesetvarietes.esy.es/

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Re: Germany: 2 Cent 2018 D
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2018, 09:49:20 AM »
My detections so far,

Germany 2 euro cent,               
ammended obverse:

Year               
2016                  G   
2017   A   D   F   G   J
2018   A                  J




(pictures and data on my gallery)

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