Modifications to the obverses and reverses of the 1, 2, 5 and 20 euro cent coins

[Angus]

I am glad that you find it of interest. In all of these 7 cases it is the version with the old reverse that is in the BU sets.

Thank you.  You say above that "Of the following 5 coins only 1 of the variants was minted for circulation", but in the following list it says two were minted for circulation - is there a mistake?

[eurocoin]

Unfortunately, I do not completely understand your question. I have made some edits to my original post that should hopefully make things clearer. If not, please let me know and I will be more than happy to explain.

[Angus]

Ah, yes, sorry, I understand now, thanks!

[Globetrotter]

For me, it's only interesting when you find the old/new version in the SAME year, because that's what I call a real variant.

[eurocoin]

For me, it's only interesting when you find the old/new version in the SAME year, because that's what I call a real variant.

That is exactly what this topic is for. So I do not understand your sudden comment.

[Globetrotter]

I'm sure we agree, I'm sorry, if you're offended in any way?

Blue zones are variants.

[eurocoin]

Oh, no I was just surprised by your comment. For me too, the most interesting and important part are the blue ones.

There will be an update of the grid, hopefully in a few weeks from now. I am currently researching new variants (blue ones). Still have to verify a number of things, so not able to provide any further info yet. Keep an eye on this topic.

[eurocoin]

I have expedited it a bit. Hereby the new overview. There are 4 new variants, and 1 already known variant of which it is now known that both versions were minted for general circulation.

The legend of the grid is as follows:

O means minted with old reverse,
N means minted with new reverse,
O/N means that the coin exists with both old and new reverse,
- means that the coin does not exist.

As can be seen, in total there are 16 coins that exist with both old and new reverse (O/N). Of the following 8 coins both variants were minted for circulation:

Austria 2 cent 2017
Austria 1 cent 2018
Austria 5 cent 2018
France 2 cent 2018
Slovenia 5 cent 2019
Spain 1 cent 2018
Spain 2 cent 2018
Spain 5 cent 2018

Of the following 8 coins only one of the variants was minted for circulation and the other was only released in sets:

Austria 2 cent 2018: Old reverse in sets only, new reverse minted for circulation
Slovakia 1 cent 2019: Old reverse in sets only, new reverse minted for circulation
Slovenia 1 cent 2018: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 2 cent 2018: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 1 cent 2021: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 5 cent 2021: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 1 cent 2022: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 2 cent 2022: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only

[Angus]

I can tell you that in 2023 sets:
Austria - new
Belgium - old
Croatia - new
Cyprus - new
France - old
Finland - new
Germany - new
Greece - new
Ireland - old
Italy - new
Lithuania - old
Luxembourg - old
Malta - old
Netherlands  - old
Portugal - new
San Marino - new
Slovakia - new
Spain - new
Vatican City - new

[eurocoin]

Thank you for the information Angus!

[eurocoin]

Updated version to include the 2023-dated coins. No new variants were discovered.

The legend of the grid is as follows:

O means minted with old reverse,
N means minted with new reverse,
O/N means that the coin exists with both old and new reverse,
- means that the coin does not exist.

As can be seen, in total there are 16 coins that exist with both old and new reverse (O/N). Of the following 8 coins both variants were minted for circulation:

Austria 2 cent 2017
Austria 1 cent 2018
Austria 5 cent 2018
France 2 cent 2018
Slovenia 5 cent 2019
Spain 1 cent 2018
Spain 2 cent 2018
Spain 5 cent 2018

Of the following 8 coins only one of the variants was minted for circulation and the other was only released in sets:

Austria 2 cent 2018: Old reverse in sets only, new reverse minted for circulation
Slovakia 1 cent 2019: Old reverse in sets only, new reverse minted for circulation
Slovenia 1 cent 2018: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 2 cent 2018: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 1 cent 2021: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 5 cent 2021: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 1 cent 2022: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 2 cent 2022: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only

[eurocoin]

The grid has been updated again as 3 new variants were discovered.

The legend of the grid is as follows:

O means minted with old reverse,
N means minted with new reverse,
O/N means that the coin exists with both old and new reverse,
- means that the coin does not exist.

As can be seen, in total there are 19 coins that exist with both old and new reverse (O/N). Of the following 8 coins both variants were minted for circulation:

Austria 2 cent 2017
Austria 1 cent 2018
Austria 5 cent 2018
France 2 cent 2018
Slovenia 5 cent 2019
Spain 1 cent 2018
Spain 2 cent 2018
Spain 5 cent 2018

Of the following 11 coins only one of the variants was minted for circulation and the other was only released in sets:

Austria 2 cent 2018: Old reverse in sets only, new reverse minted for circulation
Slovakia 1 cent 2019: Old reverse in sets only, new reverse minted for circulation
Slovenia 1 cent 2018: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 2 cent 2018: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 1 cent 2020: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 2 cent 2020: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 1 cent 2021: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 5 cent 2021: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 1 cent 2022: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 2 cent 2022: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only
Slovenia 5 cent 2023: Old reverse minted for circulation, new reverse in sets only

[eurocoin]

Royal Dutch Mint appears to not know that many countries have amended the reverses of their 1, 2 and 5 cent coins. I asked around about it at the mint but none of the people who I spoke to had heard of it before. Amongst the people that I asked about it were the most experienced people responsible for the minting dies. Neither did they appear to believe me, even after I had shown them photos.

[eurocoin]

On Friday, I was at Royal Dutch Mint again where I spoke at length with mintmaster Bert van Ravenswaaij. He told me that it is highly likely that from next year it will be mandatory for mints to use the new reverse on their 1, 2 and 5 cent coins. This was a decision of the Mint Directors Working Group. So far, the use of the new reverse was optional.

[eurocoin]

Some hero at Münze Österreich was so friendly to provide me actual mintage figures for the variants that Austria minted for general circulation.

2 cent 2017: 50.1 million pieces minted with old reverse, 7.1 million pieces minted with new reverse
1 cent 2018: 75.7 million pieces minted with old reverse, 62.8 million pieces minted with new reverse
5 cent 2018: 5.5 million pieces minted with old reverse, 17.1 million pieces minted with new reverse