Britain One Dollar 1902 Tradedollar KM# T5

[translateltd]

Lady Susan Hicks-Beach posed for Britannia for the artist De Saulles. she died in the latte 1950's.

I've heard of her as the model for the florin - did she pose for the BTD too?

[malj1]

I've heard of her as the model for the florin - did she pose for the BTD too?

Yes it was the BTD that was referred to in that reference; if you have her posing for the florin then that would tie it up nicely.

Another very good reference that I have is Silver Crowns of the Far East by M Oka although this is partly in Japanese publ. 1966

[villa66]

A complete list of trade dollars can be found in British Commonwealth Coins by Remick, James, Dowle and Finn...from above ref...
Lady Susan Hicks-Beach posed for Britannia for the artist De Saulles. she died in the latte 1950's.

Can we nail down a date for her death? I have the following entry in my coin notebook.

: A 1908 florin. A classic. This design is somewhat reminiscent of its near contemporary, the American Standing Liberty quarter. (It has been said that this figure, not the French Marianne by Roty, was the inspiration for our Standing Liberty quarter.) Modeled by Miss Susan Hicks Beach, later Lady Susan. She remained unmarried and died in 1964. (94) P.S. Check this. I've also read she died in the late 1950s. And now I've read that she died in 1965.

v.

[translateltd]

According to http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=115490 it was 1965.

If she was born in 1878 as I've found elsewhere on-line she could only have been 16 or 17 when posing for the 1895 BTD reverse.  Plausible?  The florin was seven years later.

[FosseWay]

Susan Evelyn Hicks-Beach was born in the third quarter of 1878 in Marylebone registration district in London, and died in the first quarter of 1965 in Cirencester RD in Gloucestershire, unmarried.

Her father, Michael, was Chancellor of the Exchequer in 1901 -- I've found the family living in 11 Downing Street in that year's census.

Just from looking at the two likenesses on the BTD and the florin, I'm not convinced they're from the same 'sitter'. If I may be indelicate for a moment, the BTD Britannia seems more, er, well-upholstered in the chest department than her equivalent on the florin.

Sir Michael was chancellor from 1895 to 1902, so if his position had something to do with her being the model for Britannia, she could have modelled for both coins.

[villa66]

So it's 1965, and Hicks-Beach has a hyphen. And for the background, too, thanks.

v.

[malj1]

I do have a few of these BTD's and have a duplicate of 1908 to trade, however looking on eBay last night to get an idea of the prices being asked; I found ten 1908 with several nice looking ones from China - This seems a bit of a worry! Are these Chinese ones genuine? I wonder. Anyway the prices asked varied from 53pence to over £500 so not a lot of help but the low option seems around £50-80. Some other dates were copies which I dislike intensely.