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Offline Finn235

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I am at a total loss how to explain how this one arrived in a job lot from Leu Numismatik.

Kyme, Aeolis
AR Trihemiobol (12mm, 1.34g)
Eagle head left, KY before
Incuse textured quadrupartite "Mill-sail"
Unpublished; apparently unique

Ex Roma 31/115 (£1,300; unsold) https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=3139&category=64560&lot=2633719
Ex Roma 40/165 (£220) 28 Oct 2017 (https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=4200&category=112672&lot=3443313
Ex Leu 4/1461

Either the previous owner consigned it with no paperwork, or someone goofed. I was planning to sell it no-reserve on ebay, but I think I will revisit that plan!

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Wonder if some doubts were raised about it's authenticity?
always willing to trade modern UK coins for modern coins from elsewhere....

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Re: A lesson in doing one's homework - Unique Kyme trihemiobol from job lot
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2018, 10:05:38 AM »
Can not comment on authenticity as this is out of my focus of expertise. But this coin certainly has great eye appeal !

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Re: A lesson in doing one's homework - Unique Kyme trihemiobol from job lot
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2018, 08:50:09 PM »
Can not comment on authenticity

No I can't either - just something I thought which might explain why it ended up in a job lot.
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Re: A lesson in doing one's homework - Unique Kyme trihemiobol from job lot
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2018, 09:18:53 PM »
Thanks for the comments.

I don't really know the inner workings of an auction house, but I sincerely hope that their process is not to sell suspected forgeries, even in job lots!

I know that fantasy/forgery pieces exist in some fringe areas of numismatics (e.g. CoinIndia's fake gold Samanta Deva "jital" and the highly suspect Nectanebo II stater), but it was my impression that forgers of classical Greek coins usually targeted known and popular types. I could be wrong and sincerely hope that is not the case here!

I will try to reach out to Roma and see if they have any info on the original provenance of this coin.

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Re: A lesson in doing one's homework - Unique Kyme trihemiobol from job lot
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2018, 10:40:53 PM »
this blog I used to find a really good read - but sadly it's no longer updated.
https://numismaticfakes.wordpress.com/tag/roma-numismatics-limited/
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Re: A lesson in doing one's homework - Unique Kyme trihemiobol from job lot
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2018, 09:36:57 AM »
Nice quote from that link, addressed to auction house staff:

Dear “experts”, maybe, after you have examined the coins in hand, you should try to… get some good reference books, an internet connection, some patience, and some time to spend surfing online sales, ebay and auction databases. You should do this for collectors, who are the ones who pay you your salary, by the fees they have to pay any time they win a coin at auctions.
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.