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Offline chrisild

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #360 on: October 20, 2019, 02:59:55 PM »
Most decision makers in the EU-minus-UK still believe that a "no-deal" Brexit would have worse consequences than yet another delay. So if the UK needs some more time, why not ... And yes, the coin - be it a 2019 or 2020 issue - could be produced and even distributed within just a few days.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #361 on: October 23, 2019, 11:58:48 PM »
Brexit 50p: Millions of commemorative coins thrown into doubt as delay looms

Brexit 50p: Millions of commemorative coins thrown into doubt as delay looms

The Treasury declined to comment when approached by The Independent.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #362 on: October 24, 2019, 07:24:16 AM »
We can be sure that the government would have held a first strike ceremony for propaganda purposes. Since no such event happened, we can only assume that mass production of the coin had not yet started.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #363 on: October 24, 2019, 09:55:06 AM »
No, that's not evidence. "First strikes" are usually last strikes, as the mints want distribution to start immediately after the ceremony. No ceremony just means no distribution. It may be different in India.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #364 on: October 24, 2019, 10:49:09 AM »
As far as I know first strikes in the UK are real.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #365 on: October 25, 2019, 02:59:22 PM »
Mass production of the Brexit 50p coin for general circulation had apparently indeed already started. The production has now been paused and HM Treasury will in due course take a decision what will happen with the coins that have already been produced.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #366 on: October 25, 2019, 04:40:58 PM »
After the fiasco of the first coin dated 31 March (test pieces apparently produced) they should have removed the date from the coin design.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #367 on: October 25, 2019, 06:16:11 PM »
Production of Brexit 50p coin paused amid exit uncertainty

About 1,000 already-minted coins with 31 October 2019 leave date could be worth up to 800 each


Production of Brexit 50p coin paused amid exit uncertainty

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #368 on: October 25, 2019, 08:02:24 PM »
Considering how many coins can be produced in an hour these days 1000 pieces is not much. One could still consider them ''test pieces''  ;D

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #369 on: October 26, 2019, 08:59:59 AM »
The figure of 1000 has been mentioned for trial strikes for both Brexit coins.

Does this practice apply to all commemorative issues?

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #370 on: October 26, 2019, 01:25:47 PM »
A thousand is too much for a trial run. It is more likely to be intended for distribution among dignitaries, those invited for the first strike ceremony and museums.

The WoC group was told of a similar situation during their Brussels visit: the 2 euro piece for the battle of Waterloo was not approved on EU level, yet production had already started. Only two left the mint legally. We saw one of them. It was not a test piece, but a coin in card, like the public would have had them if the issue had been approved.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #371 on: October 26, 2019, 01:46:37 PM »
That explanation makes a lot of sense.

Many thanks for your reply Figleaf.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #372 on: October 27, 2019, 07:33:04 AM »
In regard of the pieces dated 29 March 2019 The Royal Mint in the past informed me that: "We confirm that a small number of trial coins were produced as is standard procedure at The Royal Mint; approximately 1,000 trial coins were produced in total".

To me it seems that in regard of the pieces produced with the date 31 October 2019, no official information is known. The BBC has contacted The Royal Mint about this and the mint has refused to inform it how many pieces had so far been produced as it would be considered commercially sensitive information. To me that suggests that it is likely that the amount of pieces that had already been produced is much higher than just a trial run of 1,000 pieces. I think that yet another trial run would also not be very beneficial, given that only the date has changed.

By the end of the next week we will know more as 6 politicians (5 conservative, 1 labour) have sent written questions to the Treasurer about this situation.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #373 on: October 27, 2019, 11:54:49 AM »
All eyes will be on the Royal Mint if England next Saturday wins the Rugby World Cup. A win for the UK could have already been certain but Wales just lost the semi-final.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #374 on: October 28, 2019, 03:51:47 PM »
No Brexit coin this year then! Let's hope the saga is completed on 31 Jan 20.
The proverbial 'third time lucky'.
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