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Offline Alan71

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #315 on: September 04, 2019, 07:16:59 PM »
A Wallace and Gromit 50p coin will be issued within the next few months.
Somewhat unsurprising (as little can surprise these days) given as it’s the 30th anniversary this year of the first Wallace and Gromit film.

After the Gruffalo, there really are few barrels left to scrape...

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #316 on: September 04, 2019, 07:47:51 PM »
But we should also not judge former ages by the standards of our own. It is all well and good to examine past behaviour and decide that we in our more enlightened condition would not choose to behave that way. It is quite another to base our decisions on whether to commemorate a given individual on how we see their actions in 2019 rather than how they were seen at the time.

Very well said!

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #317 on: September 04, 2019, 09:22:59 PM »
After the Gruffalo, there really are few barrels left to scrape...

How about Eric Carle’s ‘The Very Hungry Caterpillar’ (1969)?

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #318 on: September 04, 2019, 10:38:08 PM »
Sajid Javid has scrapped the plan of Philip Hammond to release the Brexit 50p in sets only. Javid has asked the mint to produce millions in time for the Brexit date.
Given the unlikelihood of the UK leaving the EU on 31 October (indeed, ever leaving at all if no-deal is blocked from ever happening), I wonder what will happen to these millions of coins?  Will they just get melted down?

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #319 on: September 05, 2019, 10:36:07 AM »
Given the unlikelihood of the UK leaving the EU on 31 October (indeed, ever leaving at all if no-deal is blocked from ever happening), I wonder what will happen to these millions of coins?  Will they just get melted down?

Mass production of this coin had not yet started.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #320 on: September 13, 2019, 10:48:24 AM »
A coin dealer has issued 400 Peter Rabbit 50p coins of 2019 in BU quality into circulation.

The Royal Mint itself will not release the coin into general circulation.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #321 on: September 14, 2019, 03:22:37 PM »
The same coin dealer is going to release 750 pieces of the first Gruffalo 50p coin into general circulation.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #322 on: September 14, 2019, 03:42:45 PM »
Do you know what the dealer’s reasoning is for doing this?  Is it to try and increase trade?  I’m assuming they’re giving them out in change as they’re struggling to sell them for much more than face value?

Are dealers supplied with loose coins that aren’t struck for circulation then?  Guessing Westminster/Change Checker are so they can put them in those blue cards, but I assumed it was just them as they must have some arrangement with the Royal Mint?

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« Reply #323 on: September 14, 2019, 09:44:13 PM »
No, they are certainly not struggling to sell them. In fact I know that this dealer, Ian Lambert of the company the Great British Coin Hunt, bought all of these coins from Change Checker for 5 pounds each. What the reasoning behind this idea of his to release these coins into circulation is, I do not know. What I do know is that his decision to do this is part of a fight between him and his company on the one hand and the Royal Mint on the other hand. The dispute is being explained in YouTube videos that are several hours long, but I have summarized it below.

British coin dealers are angry at the Royal Mint. They find that the mint should always sell its products at the full retail price. The Royal Mint often has offers and sale on their website. Coin dealers, who too retail the Royal Mint's products, can not compete with these prices. So you have dealers investing a lot of money in the Royal Mint's products only to be undercut by The Royal Mint itself.

Furthermore the Royal Mint claims it does not sell wholesale itself. They have appointed distributors for that. As there are no Royal Mint distributors in the UK, coin dealers have to buy from the company Modern Numismatics International in the Netherlands. It takes usually 2 weeks but sometimes even longer from the launch of a product until they receive the coins. The Westminster Collection always starts sending out the coins on the day of their launch, meaning they must somehow get some special treatment, either from the Mint or Modern Numismatics International.

The Royal Mint also denied to Lambert in a reply to his Freedom of Information Request that they sell loose coins. That they in fact do sell loose coins, Lambert found out because of a slip of the tongue of a mint employee, during a later group phonecall with the legal counsel  and the particular employee. In the videos the legal counsel is being accused of lying under Freedom of Information law. Now others dealers too want to buy loose coins, however the mint says it can not provide the names of the distributors where they can buy the loose coins from under the Data Protection Act. Dealers do not believe the Royal Mint's claim that they sell loose coins to companies other than the Westminster Collection too, as they simply cannot find them. The Royal Mint is being accused of having ran an illegal cartel for years fixing the price of loose coins. This summer suddenly several vague companies were set up which the Royal Mint now claims are its other distributors.

It seems that the Royal Mint in March of 2017 put pressure on Lambert. The mint trademarked the name of his company 'The Great British Coin Hunt', meaning that he would no longer be able to use it. Some time later the Mint suddenly cancelled their application for the trademark.

Lambert, who claims to have the support of several UK coin dealers, has launched a crowd funding campaign to raise funds for a lawsuit against the Royal Mint.

It has to be said that Mr Lambert himself does not have an all too good reputation either. On his website, in the past people could pre-order circulated coins, which he would sent out as soon as he had found them in circulation. Several of the coins he sold on pre-order later turned out not to be released into general circulation. Several clients never received their money back.
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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #324 on: September 24, 2019, 08:12:47 AM »
The Royal Mint will later today issue a special edition of the Britannia 50 pence coin. The coin has a special mark on its reverse and microtext on its rim. It will be available in copper-nickel, silver and gold. The coin pays tribute to the science that went into the 50 pence coin. It is unknown if it will also be released into general circulation.



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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #325 on: September 24, 2019, 10:08:22 AM »
The new Strike Your Own coin at the Royal Mint Experience is the Britannia 50p coin with the special marks that can be seen above.

The coin will not be released into general circulation.
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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #326 on: September 24, 2019, 11:55:52 AM »
The pattern to the right of the "50" reminds me of the Spirograph patterns that I used to make as a child.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #327 on: September 24, 2019, 12:18:59 PM »
Quite imaginable, but in fact, the pattern is made of seven individual circles :'(

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #328 on: September 24, 2019, 02:15:43 PM »
Quite imaginable, but in fact, the pattern is made of seven individual circles :'(

Peter

There, there - no need to cry.  :)  Seven circles on a seven-sided coin. So there is logic there. Maybe Harry Potter could use this coin for his magic spells.  8)

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #329 on: September 28, 2019, 09:43:11 AM »
The new Strike Your Own coin at the Royal Mint Experience is the Britannia 50p coin with the special marks that can be seen above.
The coin will not be released into general circulation.

On sale on ebay. £20 + £2.70p&p, and someone as actually lodged a bid. How sad!!