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Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2018, 02:53:35 PM »
The Vanuatan national motto reads: "LONG GOD YUMI STANAP" - Bislama for: "IN GOD WE STAND".

"Yumi", meaning "we", comes from the English "you me".  :)
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Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2018, 02:55:15 PM »


South Africa, 2 shillings, 1937.




South Africa, 2 shillings, 1948.  From emperor to a mere king. Yet there was still a British Empire at that time.  :-\
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Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2018, 03:00:32 PM »


UK threepence, 1953.




UK threepence, 1967. BRITT:OMN was removed in 1954.


BRITT:OMN meant "of all the Britains", i.e. Queen of all the Britains. It was supposed to be praise for the Dominions who helped Britain during the Boer War. However, it was later thought to be rather patronising and imperialist, so it was dropped.


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Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2018, 03:06:24 PM »
Below are some links to topics about legend variations on UK decimal coins. Some of them would fit the theme of this topic, others would not. Most of the topics were written by our UK Decimals board moderator, Alan71, who brings a keenly analytical approach to the subject.


LEGEND VARIATIONS

UK Decimals: Legend Variations on the 1p to 20p Coins


UK Decimals: Legend Variations on the 50p Coins

Comments on "Legend Variations on the 50p Coins"


UK Decimals: Legend Variations on the Round Pounds


UK Decimals: Legend Variations on the 2 Pound Coins

Comments on "Legend Variations on the 2 Pound Coins"
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Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2018, 04:39:13 PM »
Quote from: <k> on February 11, 2018, 03:00:32 PM
BRITT:OMN meant "of all the Britains", i.e. Queen of all the Britains. It was supposed to be praise for the Dominions who helped Britain during the Boer War. However, it was later thought to be rather patronising and imperialist, so it was dropped.

While I have never quite understood why "Britanniarum" would be abbreviated "Britt" (where does that second T come from?), I liked the idea that the coins would this way have some kind of country indicator: BRITT or BR without any other territorial reference = UK. :)

Romanian coins roughly between 1950 and 1990 have interesting inscription changes too: The first name of the republic was Republica Populara Romana, the (1955-60) the last word was changed to Romina. In 1963 good old Romana was used again, but in 1965/66 the name changed to Republica Socialista Romania. All these modifications did not really affect the other design elements ...

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Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2018, 05:16:15 PM »
Quote from: chrisild on February 11, 2018, 04:39:13 PM
I have never quite understood why "Britanniarum" would be abbreviated "Britt" (where does that second T come from?)

Apparently both one and two T variations have been found in ancient Roman texts. Others think that the Romans doubled the T in abbreviation if the noun was a plural ("BRITT." = "BRITANNIARUM"). Yet others have noted that the ancient Greek word contained two Greek T's, and maybe some Romans adopted that spelling. In that case, the Romans would have pronounced it with two T's. It is normal to find variations in spelling and pronunciation, of course. So, we have all these theories but no agreement.  :-\
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Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2018, 08:48:55 PM »
From "State of Bahrain" to "Kingdom of Bahrain". Why was the name changed?
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Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2018, 01:56:14 PM »
Quote from: <k> on February 12, 2018, 08:48:55 PM
From "State of Bahrain" to "Kingdom of Bahrain". Why was the name changed?

LMGTFY. Nah, let me wikipedia that for you. ;) "A referendum on 14–15 February 2001 massively supported the National Action Charter. As part of the adoption of the National Action Charter on 14 February 2002, Bahrain changed its formal name from the State (dawla) of Bahrain to the Kingdom of Bahrain."

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Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2018, 02:07:46 PM »
CVBNM. And thank you too. I couldn't quite find the answer in the sea of text.
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Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2018, 11:42:00 PM »


Jordan, ¼ dinar, 1969.  F.A.O.

The first appearance of this design.


Below you see the ¼ dinar of 1974, celebrating the 10th anniversary of the Central Bank.

Below that, you see a standard ¼ dinar design, first introduced in 1970 but here dated 1978.
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Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2018, 03:08:59 AM »
Quote from: <k> on February 11, 2018, 02:55:15 PM

South Africa, 2 shillings, 1948.  From emperor to a mere king. Yet there was still a British Empire at that time.

The Empire was reduced to Kingdom on 15th August 1947.
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Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2018, 03:31:56 AM »
Quote from: chrisild on February 13, 2018, 01:56:14 PM
on 14 February 2002, Bahrain changed its formal name from the State (dawla) of Bahrain to the Kingdom of Bahrain."

There was a change of font ( if that could be considered alteration) in 2009
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Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2018, 11:22:29 AM »
Really, Pabitra. All those nice sharp images in my topic, and you sabotage it with something off the Victorian steam-powered internet.  >:(




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Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
« Reply #43 on: February 27, 2018, 12:16:35 PM »
My knowledge level of Arabic is Plant-minus, but the words across the denomination are different. On the top coin, I see فلس (fals), on the bottom one فلسا (falsana).

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Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
« Reply #44 on: February 27, 2018, 01:54:30 PM »
Quote from: <k> on February 27, 2018, 11:22:29 AM
Really, Pabitra. All those nice sharp images in my topic, and you sabotage it with something off the Victorian steam-powered internet.  >:(

You should thank me for not sending a Georgian horse-powered one 😃
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