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Started by africancoins, September 09, 2009, 09:53:52 PM

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africancoins

Regarding the (relatively) recent pair of 2 Pound coins from St. Helena + Ascension.....  I have the Nickel-Brass type (this one is 2002 and the edge is inscribed suitably for the 500th anniversary). I do not have the bi-metallic (2003). You can tell by looking at these that they are not from a mint set - if that had been the cause then they would have been BU or Proof (Proof coins are easy to tell..  as for BU in this context - well they are better made than circulation coins and surfaces are different). So the 2002 and 2003 2 Pound coins that are available (often ending up with collectors) will have been available at face value on the islands and maybe (likely ?) the normal circulation of this denomination is being encouraged - you would have to ask someone there to be sure. Maybe with a place so small every new coin for circulation comes via the post office - you never know.

I do not re-call the 2002 piece being different to the older GB 2 Pound coins... not quite sure where my piece is at the moment.

Thanks Mr Paul Baker

andyg

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Thanks Paul,  yes I agree both St Helena £2 coins are not from mint sets.

Here's a £2 that caught me off guard, it's a Falklands from 1999 (right), compared to the regular issue from 2004.  I always thought the picture in Krause to be wrongly sized, imagine my surprise when it turned out it wasn't! (the 1999 is from a Mint set)

africancoins

About the bigger older 2 Pounds bi-metallic from the Falkland Islands...

In September 2000 the person at  www.falklandcollectibles.com told me.....

>>>>>
The first bi-metalic coin was issued as the Millennium Coin. There are two versions and both these are available as part of the Coin Celebration Sets. Although bearing a two pound face value, they are commemmorative only, and are not used as currency.

The nickel-brass and cupro-nickel version is only available commercially as part of the cheaper Brilliant Set. However, an order was placed with the Royal Mint to produce a number to be given to each child in the Islands as a momento of the dawning of the new millennium. There were a very few left over and these came on the local market for a short time before being snapped up.
>>>>>

So the piece was big to go with other millennium coins such as our 5 Pound coin for that occasion.

The site currently includes a clear image of the 2004 BU set.

Thanks Mr Paul Baker

andyg

Quote from: africancoins on September 09, 2009, 10:41:40 PM

So the piece was big to go with other millennium coins such as our 5 Pound coin for that occasion.


The 1999 Falklands £2 was to go into sets with the other 1999 Falklands coins, I'm not aware of it being issued with any of our £5 coins? ebay link
I also believe that the only 1999 Falkland circulation issue was the £1, all other types listed in Krause were issued in  this set.

africancoins

The multi-national set from the British Royal Mint for the millennium was the one with silver coins some/many/all (not sure) of which had gold plating to some of the silver - e.g. the piece for the Falkland Islands was proof and silver core and gold-plated-silver ring (otherwise per the piece int he BU set)....  well I can almost remember this bit - but likely correct....

>>I also believe that the only 1999 Falkland circulation issue was the £1, all other types listed in Krause were issued in  this set.<<

He also made mention of something like that in one of his messages to me.

Thanks Mr Paul Baker

andyg

The 2004 Falklands series has the new* IRB portrait too.

*well I still think of it as new, after all it was only introduced 11 years ago.....

translateltd

Quote from: Ice Torch on September 10, 2009, 12:44:05 AM
(the other was alerting me to the existence of the reduced size St. Helena-Ascension 50p - my SCWC and Schoen catalogues are both 2007 but don't list it).

The 2003 50p from SHandA is listed as 27.3 mm in Schön 2009 and 30 mm in SCWC 2010 - which is correct?


andyg

Quote from: translateltd on September 10, 2009, 01:24:51 AM
The 2003 50p from SHandA is listed as 27.3 mm in Schön 2009 and 30 mm in SCWC 2010 - which is correct?



27.3mm ~ It's the same size as the post-1997 UK 50p.

Galapagos

But didn't the Mint produce both sizes for their UK BU set in 1997? And might the same have been done for the 2003 St.H&A set?

andyg

They might have done, wasn't aware that there was a set though.

Here's a question,
Did the Old size 50p circulate until 2003 on St. Helena or did they use newer UK coins?

paddyirish

Quote from: Ice Torch on September 10, 2009, 01:36:32 AM
But didn't the Mint produce both sizes for their UK BU set in 1997? And might the same have been done for the 2003 St.H&A set?

My 2003 St Helena and Ascension Set has the small 50p (27.3mm only)

translateltd

My 2003 SHandA unc set has just arrived today (invoice dated 26 Sep, envelope posted 6 Oct) - obviously registered mail with a 90p stamp from St Helena takes a bit longer to get to NZ!


translateltd

Quote from: Ice Torch on November 10, 2009, 11:37:38 PM
Did you buy one at the same time as Alasdair, after I posted the post office link?

Yep, probably within a matter of hours.


paddyirish

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I'd wager that Martin's package was picked up by the same ship as mine, taken to the UK and sent by surface to NZ.  Airmail is an alien concept on St Helena!

Andrew, the issue we have was released in August 2006, but dated 2003.  Have you seen any coins dated 2006?

http://www.postoffice.gov.sh/product_info.php?products_id=466

andyg

I have a 2006 dated set on order from a dealer in Switzerland.....
Will let you know when they get here.

The only 2006 dated St Helena coins on ebay at the moment are £2 coins (as below)
I first became aware of these at start October, so they have not long been issued.