Two similar Arabic coins for identification

[capnbirdseye]

These were in a cheap lot of coins, not sure what they are

3.90g & 3.75g

flans are around 28mm

[THCoins]

The chain-like band pattern around the center looks Mamluk, but the flans look much more central Asian.
In short, 

[capnbirdseye]

The chain-like band pattern around the center looks Mamluk, but the flans look much more central Asian.
In short, 

Yes, I have no idea for these either, I'll  post them on zeno tomorrow I think

[Manzikert]

Qarakhanid I'm pretty sure, but I can't say more at the moment.

Alan

[capnbirdseye]

Qarakhanid I'm pretty sure, but I can't say more at the moment.

Alan

Any more info on these Alan?

[toofast]

Can you please provide better pictures?

-- Dmitry

[capnbirdseye]

Here is one of them,  it's not a very photogenic coin unfortunately

[capnbirdseye]

And the second one