UK Commemorative themes for 2018

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<k>

Quote from: Alan71 on September 10, 2018, 06:11:45 PM
Oh come on, it does matter to some people!  This will be/is one of the rarest cupro-nickel circulation coins in existence.  It doesn't appear in any sets so that 19,934 really is it.

See: 50p: Sir Isaac Newton

Mintage: 1,800,000

So, with a paltry extra 20,000 or so added from "The Experience", just how "rare" is it? And how exactly are the "Experience" versions different? If I put one of each in your hand, could you tell the difference? You're falling prey to commercialism, just as they planned. We do live in a capitalist, materialist world, so I expect a lot of people do get sucked in. You do seem like a very different Alan71 from the one who joined the forum, though.  :-\

Anyway, just how many millions of pounds would these so "rare" pieces earn you? Not very much, in truth. I'm far rarer than any of them, because there is only one of me. You can't even buy me on the slave market - I'm so rare, I'm priceless.  8)  Well, that's until they clone me, of course, and I become a trillionaire selling copies of myself at "The <k> Experience".

Out of interest, what's your favourite TV programme? "Location, Location", perhaps - that indoctrinates you to covet and want to buy expensive things in the hope of turning a profit?  >:D
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kena

The mintage figure of 1,800,000 is for the 2017 Newton coin which was released for circulation.

Are you saying that the 2018 Strike Your Newton is the same coin and that the date of the coin does not matter?

<k>

Quote from: kena on September 10, 2018, 07:02:32 PM
The mintage figure of 1,800,000 is for the 2017 Newton coin which was released for circulation.

Are you saying that the 2018 Strike Your Newton is the same coin and that the date of the coin does not matter?

Fair enough, I didn't know that and got it wrong. Dates do not interest me: designs are my thing. It matters to whom it matters, but I see it as an advertising ploy to attract people to "The Experience". The Mint is required to turn a profit, so I do not blame them for that. However, it appears to be a commercial matter, far more than a numismatic one, and at least people can read the story here and decide what their own priorities are.  ;)
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Deeman

Believe the mintage figure for Blue Peter Olympic 50p of 2009 is 19,751. Another beautiful number for <k>!

<k>

Quote from: Deeman on September 10, 2018, 07:36:16 PM
Believe the mintage figure for Blue Peter Olympic 50p of 2009 is 19,751. Another beautiful number for <k>!

I won't believe it unless you count them before my very eyes. I think the figure is far more likely to be 19,750½, to allow for wear and tear.  :)
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Alan71

Quote from: Deeman on September 10, 2018, 07:36:16 PM
Believe the mintage figure for Blue Peter Olympic 50p of 2009 is 19,751. Another beautiful number for <k>!
Thanks Deeman, so a very similar number then.

<k>, dates definitely do matter.  They're usually the most important thing.  I only see designs as being particularly important if they are exclusive to a low mintage (ie. Kew etc).

<k>

Quote from: Alan71 on September 10, 2018, 11:25:33 PM
<k>, dates definitely do matter.  They're usually the most important thing.

Is that so? It depends on the context. No, I think the metal is the most important thing, otherwise the coin would not exist. Then the denomination, otherwise you could not spend it in the shops. It is meant to be money, after all. And for a 50 pence coin, the number of sides is important. Always make sure there are seven sides before accepting the coin in change.  ;)

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  I only see designs as being particularly important if they are exclusive to a low mintage (ie. Kew etc).

In your opinion. So maybe we should adopt almost blank token-like designs, and that would stop any arguments over Mr Dent's designs.  :D
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chrisild

Some coin collectors find dates important, others do not ... and neither does the general public, I think. :) But if you collect a certain coin type by year, you want all dates if possible - and then the mintage becomes relevant.

Christian

eurocoin

From October 1, 2018 the Strike Your Own coin at the Royal Mint Experience will be the Frankenstein 2 pounds coin.

FosseWay

Quote from: chrisild on September 11, 2018, 05:16:02 PM
Some coin collectors find dates important, others do not ... and neither does the general public, I think. :) But if you collect a certain coin type by year, you want all dates if possible - and then the mintage becomes relevant.

Christian

Yes, this is it. If the date of coins within an otherwise identical series of coins was totally uninteresting, we wouldn't have the concept of "key dates" and the consequent premium attached to, say, 1905 half-crowns compared to the rest of that series. Enough collectors collect by date for supply and demand to dictate that different market values apply to coins with the same design and in the same condition but with different dates. And because the weight of date collecting is sufficient to affect the price of individual coins in this way, the public becomes aware of "rare dates". This was true well before the age of social media and the Royal Mint's marketing hype - although there is possibly a difference in the reliability of the information the public is aware of.

eurocoin

Another 2.6 million Alphabet 10p coins will be released into circulation mid next month. This time they will be released through the banks which hopefully causes that they will actually end up in circulation instead of the post office staff hoarding them (the previous batch of 2.6 million was released through the post offices).

The Snowman 50p coin will be released (mid) next month.

Figleaf

With the mint and the sensation press constantly hyping new issues, is there any hope that bank staff will not react the same as Post Office staff?

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

eurocoin

#192
The design of the Snowman 50p coin has just been leaked.





eurocoin

The proof coin will allegedly be the first full colour 50p coin.

<k>

Well, I never. I predict that one of our members will go through the usual stages:

1] Disbelief.

2] Anger!

3] Acceptance.

4] I've bought some, but only in the expectation that they will go up in value.

:D ;D >:D :P
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