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King Edward I?
« on: September 24, 2017, 12:47:16 PM »
Dear gentlemen,

Got this coin recently from Dublin. Weight is 0,95 g. Diameter 18 mm

My wild guess that it is Silver penny Great Britain, Plantagenets, Edward I, 1272-1307 AD.

Am I right? Would appreciate any additional information (catalog reference, lettering, mint etc.)

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Alexander
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Re: King Edward I?
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2017, 08:39:42 AM »
It is possibly a silver penny of King Edward III (1351-1361). See this link:-

http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/pics/hamm/ed3/1d/index.html

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Re: King Edward I?
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2017, 09:02:38 AM »
I was thinking that it is Silver Penny of Edward I, Durham.

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/edwardian-Pennies/Edwardian%20Pennies%20P1.htm#The groups
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Re: King Edward I?
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2017, 12:41:54 PM »
Obverse legend is EDWARDVS REX ANGL (...), which means it was minted after 1335. Reverse legend is CIVITAS DVRELMIE, which confirms Durham and excludes Edward IV, so the range of the coin is 1335-1377. The diameter of 18 mm places it early in the period. The absence of a mark in the centre of the cross limits the number of choices to Spink 1549 or 1550. Later issues have a dot or crozier as marks of bishop Hatfield. However, 1549 has EDWR and 1550 has EDWAR.

If it were my coin, I would call it Spink 1549/50 var, Edward III, penny 1344-51 Durham, sede vacante.

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Re: King Edward I?
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2017, 01:08:06 PM »
Thanks a lot, Peter! You are the best expert as usual!

Why 'sede vacante' is mentioned in your description?
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2017, 01:24:30 PM »
I just have a good library and some experience reading these coins.

The mint of Durham was controlled by the prince-bishops of Durham (often enough the evil younger brother of a high nobleman). Richard de Bury had just left the scene and the new bishop, Thomas Hatfield had not been installed yet. While the sede vacante coins are interesting, they are not scarcer than other Durham coins.

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Re: King Edward I?
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2017, 02:06:30 PM »
Thanks a lot! Extremely educative. All the rest of experts were claiming that it is Edward I and I was unsuccessfully trying to find a type.
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Re: King Edward I?
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2017, 07:52:15 PM »
By the way, what do you think should be the price for this coin? I've paid 40 Euros.
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Re: King Edward I?
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2017, 09:03:48 PM »
Spink gives nos 1549 and 1550 a valuation of £40 and £50 respectively in Fine (2004 edition). Given those figures are 13 years old, but your coin is lower than Fine IMO, I reckon €40 sounds reasonable.

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Re: King Edward I?
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2017, 09:14:57 PM »
Alex, thanks a lot! It was a rather wild purchase :)
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