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gerard974

hello
what you can say to me for these coin ,i have seen on a second hand market but i dont know what is it

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thank you very much if you know
best regards  Gerard

Figleaf

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Dinar de l'Afrique du Nord ou de l'Espagne. A acheter!

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

gerard974

hello
one little UP if one collector know other things  ;D
best regards  Gerard

Figleaf

Try a PM to THCoins, GĂ©rard. He works miracles with Kufic script.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

THCoins

Hi Gerard,

Sorry no miracles from me. Can read some Kufic, but still need nearly complete legends and good photos to do so.

This Dirham is fairly generic in its style. Based on style alone it is not possible to link it directly to some time and place. It is not the standard Ummayad or Abbasid type. Could be Spain, could also be more in the direction of central Asia. Also the text is not very helpfull, as it is also mainly standard formulae.

In the top picture the center reads : "La illah illa  / Allah wahadu / la sherika lahu"
In the bottom picture it is "Adl (just) / Muhammad / rasul / Allah".  In the bottom line is possibly the name of the Caliph. This may help in dating the coin. But i can not give a definite reliable reading. (Many names are quite similar)

To help in attribution one searches the margin text for phrases like "Bism Allah zarb Haza al Dirham" (This coin was struck in the name of Allah) which is followed by the mintname. Or the word "Sanat" (in the year) which is followed by the date.
But i can not make out both from the fragments visible on your coin.

Anthony

gerard974

Hello Anthony
a big thank you for your reply
best regards  Gerard