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Offline Afrasi

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Ceylon VOC 1 Duit 1786 C Tin
« on: November 28, 2016, 08:12:02 PM »
The coin is lens-shaped. To me it look both, neither a fake and neither original. Any comment of the specialists is much appreciated.

9.96 g tin
27.8 x 5.9 mm lens-shaped

The motive of the dove at top of a mango tree is taken from the arms of Colombo.

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Re: Ceylon VOC 1 Duit 1786 C Tin
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2016, 09:00:42 PM »
Tin-lead aloy.
It often has a poor appearance.
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Re: Ceylon VOC 1 Duit 1786 C Tin
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2016, 01:50:20 PM »
I have looked for this extensively, but was unable to find it. I agree that it is likely to be a local circulating token, not a coin. Therefore, it is an exciting find.

The C is the mintmark of Colombo (Sri Lanka). Even if it were a G (Galle) it would still be Sri Lanka. The denomination 1 ... D is an indication that Dutch money was in use, which was the case in Sri Lanka. The date is likely post-dated. However, the tree with bird, probably the only indication of the issuer, doesn't ring a bell. The metal is also not typical for Sri Lankan local coins. It is more likely to be found more to the East: Penang, Burma or, more likely, the East of Indonesia, where VOC coins struck in Sri Lanka also circulated ...

I will try to find a scientific contact in the Netherlands for you. I think this item is certainly worth further study.

Peter
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Re: Ceylon VOC 1 Duit 1786 C Tin
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2016, 02:20:03 PM »
Thanks! The mango tree with the dove is shown on the arms of Colombo. The coin is or wants to look like KM # 24.2, a tin coin of Sri Lanka.

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Re: Ceylon VOC 1 Duit 1786 C Tin
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2016, 04:29:20 PM »
So that's where you got the dove and mango tree from! That makes it quite likely it is Sri Lanka, but still not an official issue.

Peter
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Re: Ceylon VOC 1 Duit 1786 C Tin
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2019, 02:13:06 PM »
It is an official documented issue.
See details in
Dutch - Ceilon - -VOC 1 DT - Dove on mango tree
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Coins @http://coins.lakdiva.org since 300 BCE and
Banknotes @http://notes.lakdiva.org since 1795 CE.

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Re: Ceylon VOC 1 Duit 1786 C Tin
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2019, 05:47:48 PM »
You are quit right. Don't know how I could have overlooked it. Maybe because I never saw the coin before. Small detail: Afrasi's coin is dated 1786, so it is Scholten 1312 (RR). Congratulations, Afrasi! Great catch.

Peter
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Re: Ceylon VOC 1 Duit 1786 C Tin
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2019, 12:40:24 AM »
I have seen several lens or globular formed pieces, but so far I have disregarded them all as counterfeits or fakes.
This specimen Zeno - Oriental Coins Database - Dutch Ceylon, VOC, Doit, Colombo, 1785 looks more authentic, but still curious pieces are found like this one: Zeno - Oriental Coins Database - Dutch Ceylon, VOC, Doit, Colombo, 1786..