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Official trials and patterns that were sold to collectors
« on: June 16, 2017, 11:13:19 PM »
Mints routinely product trials and patterns to experiment with new shapes, sizes, metals and designs. In some cases, unadopted designs have later been resurrected as designs for official circulation coins and official collector coins: Unrealised designs that later became coins.

In other cases, mints have produced limited numbers of trials and patterns to sell to collectors. I am talking here of official products that were legally authorised by recognised countries. These trials have different names in different languages: essai, prova, próba, Probe, prueba, etc. I am specifically NOT talking about fantasies; there are well known pieces that claim to be trial or pattern euros, but in fact they are fantasies produced unofficially for commercial reasons. So, please do not post fantasies here.


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Re: Official trials and patterns that were sold to collectors
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2017, 11:16:11 PM »


Poland, 20 zloty, 1964.  Próba.

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Poland produced many such pieces, from the 1960s to the 1980s, presumably to earn much needed foreign currency. But why call these pieces "próba"? The Isle of Man is more honest and has produced hundreds of collector coins for entirely commercial reasons.

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Re: Official trials and patterns that were sold to collectors
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2017, 11:18:14 PM »






Brazil, 1 centavo, 1980.  Soya plant.  "Prova" (trial piece).

Does anybody know anything about the status of these Brazilian pieces?

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Re: Official trials and patterns that were sold to collectors
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2017, 11:18:40 PM »


Brazil, 10 centavos, 1980.  Two carp.  "Prova" (trial piece).

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Re: Official trials and patterns that were sold to collectors
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2017, 11:18:59 PM »


Brazil, 50 centavos, 1980.   Zebu.  "Prova" (trial piece).

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Re: Official trials and patterns that were sold to collectors
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2017, 11:21:27 PM »
This UK 2 pound trial, dated 1994, was mass-produced and sold to collectors in a specially produced package with explanatory text in 1997. The cost was around 20 pounds, I believe.

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Re: Official trials and patterns that were sold to collectors
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2017, 11:27:10 PM »


Gabon, 100 francs, 1973.  ESSAI.

The French mint produces many pieces that are the same as the issued coins, apart from the word ESSAI. Who knows the policies behind this practice?

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Re: Official trials and patterns that were sold to collectors
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2017, 11:27:49 PM »


Central African States, 500 francs, 1976.  ESSAI.

Another example.

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Re: Official trials and patterns that were sold to collectors
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2017, 11:37:08 PM »
France, 10 francs, 1974.  ESSAI.

Here's an example from France itself. Were such pieces produced for collectors?

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Re: Official trials and patterns that were sold to collectors
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2017, 02:01:10 PM »
France has a long history of marking coins ESSAI and selling them to collectors. Post-truth.

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Re: Official trials and patterns that were sold to collectors
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2017, 10:39:39 PM »
Thanks, Figleaf. I'm not sure what you mean by post-truth in this context, though.

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Re: Official trials and patterns that were sold to collectors
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2017, 12:18:45 AM »
I would guess meaning well after normal minting stopped.
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Thanks, Figleaf. I'm not sure what you mean by post-truth in this context, though.

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Re: Official trials and patterns that were sold to collectors
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2017, 09:41:20 AM »
ESSAI is the equivalent of PROBA, etc. or proof in English, as in "test piece". These are of course not test pieces, but just a commercial trick. While there is a (thin) market for them in France, they are not regarded as test pieces. They can indeed be sold long after their year of issue.

It is best practice to call test pieces patterns. They are used to see how the design works out in practice and if it needs to be adjusted. Pieces made for approval of a new design are proofs, but that term has been transferred to a striking technique.

Patterns are not intended to be sold; neither are pieces for approval. Proofs and ESSAIS are. The confusion is made on purpose. The sellers want collectors to think they are buying something not intended to be sold, therefore scarce, while in fact, there are cases where there are more proofs than circulation strikes and ESSAIS usually  do not differ from circulation strikes in a meaningful way. I call that a post-truth. I used to call it commercialism and before that, I called it a lie.

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Re: Official trials and patterns that were sold to collectors
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2017, 07:31:32 AM »
In 2003 the Royal Mint sold a set of four silver patterns depicting bridges. These designs then appeared on the round pounds from 2004 to 2007. Cheating or what?  >:(

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Re: Official trials and patterns that were sold to collectors
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2017, 07:33:48 AM »
In 2004 the Royal Mint sold a set of GOLD patterns that depicted heraldic beasts. The designs were by Timothy Noad. My guess is that they narrowly failed to win the competition for the 2004 to 2007 series of pound coin designs but were considered too good to waste.