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Started by Afrasi, May 24, 2017, 03:39:29 PM

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Afrasi

Could this be a telephone token for an early direct call from Paris to Morocco?

22.2 x 1.5 mm
3.33 g Cu-Ni

Figleaf

The shape is incorrect for a phone token. It looks like it had to be inserted to operate a machine or lock and could be retrieved afterwards, e.g. a toilet token.

"Paris Maroc" is used in France for Moroccans offering something North African in France, like a Moroccan restaurant or shop. It may have been used in a similar way for a French commerce in Morocco.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

Afrasi

Thanks to some specialists including Mal I know in between more:

This shape of tokens was also used for other tokens. See photo below!

These other tokens are for music automats of the Belgish company "Phonographes Pathe". See photo below!

"Paris Maroc" was a large shopping centre in Casablanca built in 1914. See the large building at the end of the road at the photo below!

So it was probably used as an audition token in a grammophone salon in the "Paris Maroc Building" at Casablanca. So it is probably a real African token!  ;D

Figleaf

#3
Good research, like we have come to expect from Mal. Didn't think we'd get far with so little information.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

malj1

Here are some quotes regarding the "Paris Maroc Building" at Casablanca. 

Between 1912 and 1916 Auguste and Gustave Perret designed and supervised several reinforced-concrete
structures, including the Hotel Excelsior, the Paris-Maroc Department Store (later the Galleries Lafayettes),
warehouses (fig. 49), and apartment buildings.

...Galeries Lafayette previously operated a store in Casablanca from the 1920s through the early 1970s...

...Galeries Lafayette opened a store in Casablanca, the former French colony's economic capital, in the 1920s
but it was closed more than 35 years ago.


Here is the image again with the information at the bottom which is useful.  ;D along with another which has the Galeries Lafayette at right.

Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.

malj1

Early US telephones made use of several types of slotted tokens mainly in the Chicago area but also to a lesser extent in San Francisco, however these were somewhat different to those under discussion here.
Malcolm
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malj1

Another very similar slotted machine token arrived today; bought from France.

DISTRIBUTEUR JAQUET DEPOSE uniface brass 28.7mm.

Purely at a guess I think this too was used to operate some kind of music machine or phonograph.
Malcolm
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Figleaf

Not that it matters much, but the word is DÉPOSÉ, short for marque déposé or registered trade mark. Distributeur in this context is a vending machine. Remarkably, in both cases the French is shorter than the English version. Usually, French is longer.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

malj1

JAQUET is the key to this, it seems to be a family name, but which Google is unable to find in this context.

Of course my lack of French doesn't help either.
Malcolm
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Figleaf

Ys, it is a family name, noteworthy for the omitted C (Jacquet would be the normal spelling). I got over 30 000 hits on Google on distributeur jaquet, many not relevant. On account of the missing C, I would prefer a non-French identification and note the hits from Switzerland.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

malj1

Not proof but an interesting link nevertheless.

Quote:
Following the success of the Théâtrophone and Electrophone systems, which had spread to salons, hotels, and restaurants, in most big cities in Britain and France, like for example the Salon Jacquet, 315 rue Aristide Briand in Le Havre, that had its own token made, several interesting music libraries were established in the European capitals and big cities. They were in fact based on the same principle as the telephone line systems, but they differed a little, as the phone or ordering units were only connected to a central library often located in the basement beneath the salon open to the public. Such libraries were the true forerunners of the American telephone line music systems of the 1940s. People just had to learn about the music libraries for the concept to expand.
Source
Malcolm
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malj1

#11
Another from tokencatalog.com showing token. (the token has a difference of opinion about the street number 315 or 351)

JACQUET / LE HAVRE / 351, RUE ARISTIDE BRIAND
ELECTROPHONE    
TC-269405 *** The electrophone was a coin-operated music system which used telephone lines. The "musical telephone" was first demonstrated by the French inventor Clement Agnes Ader at an electric expo in 1881. By the early 1900's, this forerunner of the jukebox was found in salons, hotels and restaurants throughout Europe, notably in France and Great Britain. The Jacquet token also occurs in Zinc.
Malcolm
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malj1

This morning I realised I already have two of these JACQUET tokens, both brass and nickel zinc, in my collection! The first  piece giving the street number as 351 while the latter shows 315  ::)

Four varieties are listed in Jetons d'Audition France & Colonies (édition 2004) by Pierre Hubert - Bernard Nesly.
Malcolm
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malj1

Sometimes tokens are just awaiting a bit of soap and water to improve their looks, what I had thought to be verdigris turned out to be mouldy dirt.  8)
Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.

Figleaf

Except that on these tokens, Jacquet does have a C, so they are likely not from the same issuer.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.