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Curaçao and Sint Maarten: 5 Guilder Red Cross 2017
« on: May 23, 2017, 02:10:44 PM »
The Royal Dutch Mint is later this year planning to issue a 5 gulden coin for Curaçao and Sint Maarten to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the Red Cross. The design of the coin was made by Ellis Kloosterman, who is often being asked to design the collectors coins of the islands. What is the most interesting about this coin however is the fact that it does not mention the Netherlands Antilles. Until now every modern coin issued by the 2 islands always mentioned the former name. The Netherlands Antilles were dissolved in 2010 and ever since Curaçao and Sint Maarten have been trying to issue their new currency, the Caribbean Guilder.

Although Elles Kloosterman usually makes ok designs, I consider the reverse of the coin to be a mess and I am not fond of the obverse either.



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Re: Curaçao and Sint Maarten: 5 Guilder Red Cross 2017
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2017, 03:03:53 PM »
I have been to Sint Maarten (twice) but not Curacao although it is on my bucket list. Interesting looking coin but I have recently decided no more collector-only coins for me.
Circulating issues only.

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Re: Curaçao and Sint Maarten: 5 Guilder Red Cross 2017
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2017, 05:46:37 PM »
I consider the reverse of the coin to be a mess and I am not fond of the obverse either.

I agree and would add that the symbolism is, at least for me, somewhat confused. Not sure who the figure in the background is. It looks most like William III (no, it's not Dunant) and I don't know what his connection with the red cross is - which may be my ignorance. The date 1867 is within the reign of William III.

The words on the other side mean impartiality, humanity, generality, unity, voluntaryness, neutrality, independence. Of these, impartiality, neutrality and independence have been criticised as kowtowing to bloodthirsty dictators. Case in point: in Syria, the Russian air force is bombing the hospitals of "Doctors without borders" to kill the wounded. The red half moon isn't there, because it requires the permission of all belligerents to enter. "Doctors without borders exposes the humanitarian crimes committed. Even if the red half moon would be there, its policy would prohibit criticism of any party. In other words, half of the words on the coin are criticising the red cross.

Peter
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Re: Curaçao and Sint Maarten: 5 Guilder Red Cross 2017
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2017, 06:41:02 PM »
Somewhat busy indeed. I see six crosses in different sizes, I see a second man who looks as if he had just had a noodle dish a little too hastily ;) and four hands, two of which are in a heart ...

May well be that the hands were taken from some logo, dunno. And yes, the second portrait is probably Willem - the explanatory image that I posted in the NL €5 coin topic mentions a royal portrait "tot aan de borst; een link naar Koning Willem III die in 1867 de start van het Nederlandse Rode Kruis mogelijk maakte."

Those words (principles) can also be found on the German Red Cross coin from 2013. They may not work well any more these days, and of course you could add a sentence such as "provided that, in the case of armed conflicts, all parties adhere to these ideals." Peacekeeping or humanitarian missions cannot work if one or more major conflict parties do(es) not respect them ...

Well, I may still buy the coin because of the new "country" name. Will see.

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Re: Curaçao and Sint Maarten: 5 Guilder Red Cross 2017
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2017, 02:15:09 PM »
It appears that the government of Curaçao and Sint Maarten did not give permission for the issuance of the coin.

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Re: Curaçao and Sint Maarten: 5 Guilder Red Cross 2017
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2017, 10:34:52 PM »
Making the design more interesting now.

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Re: Curaçao and Sint Maarten: 5 Guilder Red Cross 2017
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2017, 07:29:04 AM »
According to Erik J Van Loon on his blog, the design has been changed. A low quality image of the new design can be seen below. It again depicts "the Netherlands Antilles".






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