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Offline alglasser

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3 British pennies, an appeal for help, please
« on: May 01, 2017, 12:24:17 AM »
Hello, Everyone.
I have been trusted with a collection of mostly modern foreign coins to evaluate and hopefully sell and I am puzzled by 3 British pennies. Well, I know they are obviously pennies, 1860, 1878, and 1889 but as better dates,  The Standard Catalog of World Coins, 1801-1900 8th Edition lists several varieties of each and I want to make sure I am not missing a significant find. I would be most grateful for any assistance you could offer on these pieces and I send sincere thanks! I haven't been on this site for quite a while so I hope I have posted the photos correctly. If not, I'm so sorry for my forgetfulness and I'll try to figure it out somehow. again, thanks!. Alan in Massachusetts, U.S.A.  (Composer Coins)






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Re: 3 British pennies, an appeal for help, please
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2017, 02:41:12 PM »
Hello, Figleaf!!

Thank you so much for "opening my links" into photos! Very much appreciated. I may send out a call for help with several Chinese "Cash coins" too in the near future because I gave up trying to figure them out for the owner.

This is a fabulous community!!

Alan

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Re: 3 British pennies, an appeal for help, please
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2017, 04:10:43 PM »
I gave it a shot with my copy of Spink but couldn't see a lot of the details the catalog is asking me to look for (e.g., counting leaves and berries) with the current image size/clarity.  :(

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Re: 3 British pennies, an appeal for help, please
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2017, 04:54:07 PM »
You can click on each image to enlarge it.

Peter
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Re: 3 British pennies, an appeal for help, please
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2017, 01:20:37 AM »
Hi Alan, I took the liberty of posting the pictures of the 1860 on another forum. I have been reliably informed this is Freeman number 13: obverse 3, reverse D. It's one of the most common 1860s; rarity R7 (estimated 20001-30000 extant). Nice condition. :)

The 1878 is Freeman 94: obverse 8, reverse J.

The 1889 is either Freeman 127 (obverse 12, reverse N) or 128 (obverse 13, reverse N) but the photo isn't sufficiently good for me to be able to distinguish between them.

The reference is The Bronze Coinage of Great Britain (1860-1970) by Michael J Freeman.

Tony Clayton's site should have more information: http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/penny.html


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Re: 3 British pennies, an appeal for help, please
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2017, 01:23:08 AM »
I may send out a call for help with several Chinese "Cash coins" too in the near future because I gave up trying to figure them out for the owner.

This site might help with those: http://www.calgarycoin.com/reference/china/china8.htm#hsien

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Re: 3 British pennies, an appeal for help, please
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2017, 12:21:46 AM »
Hello, everyone.

Thanks so much for the input. Apparently, I have some work to do as I hope to offer the coins on E-Bay as soon as I determine if there is any value that makes them "noteworthy".

Mrbadexample, thank you for your research. With a rarity of 7 for the 1860 coin, is there some premium for the coin? I need to get a reasonable value for the woman who owns the pieces and I don't want to "give them away". She truly is going through difficult times. Thanks for the reference to "coins of the UK..." book. I'll check it out. Oh, thanks also for the guidance with the Chinese cash pieces. I'll go the the site you suggested.

Many thanks to everyone!!! VERY much appreciated. Alan

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Re: 3 British pennies, an appeal for help, please
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2017, 02:04:47 AM »
With a rarity of 7 for the 1860 coin, is there some premium for the coin?

Hmmm...not as such, since it's the most common of the 1860 pennies. Having said that, it's by far the nicest of the three, and I think would grade in the UK as Extremely Fine. I have a couple of price guides from 2016 that suggest a value of around 100 in this grade.

The 1878 should realise in the region of 30-40. Bit more difficult with the 1889 as it has some damage, so perhaps 10-15.

If you do list them on ebay, decent pictures are of paramount importance, and try to reach the UK audience if you can. Good luck with the sale - there should be at least $200 worth here. :)

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Re: 3 British pennies, an appeal for help, please
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2017, 09:41:22 AM »
@alglasser: if you wish, you can post your Chinese cash coins here too.

http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/board,131.0.html

We have world class expertise of these coins available.

Peter
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Re: 3 British pennies, an appeal for help, please
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2017, 12:03:33 AM »
Hello, everyone.

This is just a word of thanks to those kind individuals who shared their knowledge with me on my topic. Because of you, I was able to sell 2 of the British pennies and pass some badly needed money on to my neighbor. Other pieces are "waiting to be listed". So, thank you...very much!! Also, I'm on my way to post 3 Chinese "cash coins" here on WOC to see if by any chance they have any value worth pursuing on her behalf. Thanks for referring me to another topic here on WOC. The rest of her late husband's world coins I was able to determine and a fair number have sold. She pleased, as am I and we both send sincere thanks!

Alan in Massachusetts, U.S.A.

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Re: 3 British pennies, an appeal for help, please
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2017, 11:58:40 PM »
That's good news Alan. I hope they realised their potential for your neighbour. :)