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The jigsaw series is broken. Should it be scrapped?

Started by <k>, April 23, 2017, 01:49:07 PM

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Should we scrap the jigsaw series?

Yes, let's commission a new design series
13 (72.2%)
No, leave it as it is - it doesn't really matter
4 (22.2%)
No - change the design of the 12-sided pound instead, to match the jigsaw series
0 (0%)
Don't know
1 (5.6%)

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<k>

The only option I didn't consider is that Matt Dent might be asked to redo his jigsaw puzzle, after the 1p and 2p coins are demonetised.  :-X
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Alan71

Quote from: <k> on May 01, 2017, 11:55:20 AM
The only option I didn't consider is that Matt Dent might be asked to redo his jigsaw puzzle, after the 1p and 2p coins are demonetised.  :-X
Well if he was, it might be an improvement?  You'd get more of the shield on each remaining coin?

I was looking at the 20p the other day.  Of all the denominations, that one gets the worst deal.  It's basically a leg and a tail.  No individual coin design could get away with that.

The 10p and 2p perhaps get the best deal, though the 5p looks good too.  Not fussed on the 50p as it's upside down, but at least much of the harp and animal are present.

<k>

Quote from: Alan71 on May 01, 2017, 12:10:45 PM
Well if he was, it might be an improvement?  You'd get more of the shield on each remaining coin?

You like the idea?  :o  I want to see the back of the jigsaw series entirely.

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I was looking at the 20p the other day.  Of all the denominations, that one gets the worst deal.  It's basically a leg and a tail.

Yes, an animal's bum on the Queen's coinage. Disgraceful.  :-X

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The 10p and 2p perhaps get the best deal, though the 5p looks good too.

Some of them are superbly engraved, it's true.
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chrisild

Quote from: <k> on May 01, 2017, 11:55:20 AM
The only option I didn't consider is that Matt Dent might be asked to redo his jigsaw puzzle, after the 1p and 2p coins are demonetised.  :-X

While I don't really want to bring politics back to this topic, it would still make sense to me to ... wait. :)  Assuming that one day Scotland and Northern Ireland are allowed to vote on their future status just as the UK was allowed to do that, the results may or may not have an effect on such coin designs. Now if the 1 penny and 2 pence coins were to be phased out very soon (as in really soon now), then an updated puzzle design may make some sense.

But how to do that? The "gaps" cannot be filled by the £1 and £2 coins, as they (especially the brand new 1 pound coin) have different designs. And spreading four parts of the CoA across four coin denominations ... that comes close to asking for trouble. ;)

Christian

<k>

Quote from: chrisild on May 01, 2017, 12:55:20 PM
The "gaps" cannot be filled by the £1 and £2 coins, as they (especially the brand new 1 pound coin) have different designs. And spreading four parts of the CoA across four coin denominations ... that comes close to asking for trouble. ;)

Spreading them out across the 5p, 10p, 20p and 50p. I see what you mean. It is looking less likely at the moment that any constituent country will secede - after all, Flanders and Quebec have on several occasions looked likely to secede over the past decades, but it hasn't happened. But, of course, it can't be ruled out entirely.

The designs of the prior decimal series assigned the 2p to Wales, the 5p to Scotland and the 10p to England. Northern Ireland got nothing - but see The Strange Story of the Northern Irish Two Pence. Nobody complained. Would it be different nowadays?
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<k>

UPDATE



New UK coin series for King Charles III.


So what happened? I had predicted elsewhere that the tradition of issuing pound coins with regional designs (that is, for England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland separately) would not be revived for the bimetallic coin. That proved correct. The rise of the Scottish National Party had made the UK establishment nervous about separatism.

The Queen died in September 2022. I told our forum member eurocoin that there would be a new coin series for King Charles III. He did not believe me. He was proved wrong. So the problem solved itself. The jigsaw series was consigned to history, though plenty of the coins are still in circulation.

The Royal Mint (UK) had announced at the beginning of 2022 that there would be a new reverse design for the pound coin in 2023. However, Queen Elizabeth II died in September 2022, and that plan was scrapped:

In 2022 The Royal Mint commissioned Michael Armitage to produce a new design for the reverse side of the £1. However, due to the passing of Her Late Majesty the Queen and in keeping with tradition, a new set of coinage was required with definitive designs approved by His Majesty the King, and the commission did not progress further.

As the commission did not progress, no approved design is held by The Royal Mint.


See:  The Royal Mint to introduce new design on standard 1 pound coin.
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