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Offline natko

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Z. N. token with denomination 5. Any clues?
« on: April 17, 2017, 08:18:56 PM »
It's been offered locally, from a collection of late 19th and early 20th century tokens from all over Austria-Hungary, but also Germany and Italy. I don't have detailed German literature on wertmarken, googling didn't help in German, Italian or English.

Any info? Thanks.

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Re: Z. N. token with denomination 5. Any clues?
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2017, 09:41:54 PM »
German-language, Slavic or Hungarian seem much more likely than Italian - Z is much commoner in those languages as an initial letter than in Italian.

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Re: Z. N. token with denomination 5. Any clues?
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2017, 12:04:01 AM »
Not a British style of 5
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Re: Z. N. token with denomination 5. Any clues?
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2017, 03:12:08 AM »
Here is a very similar one taken from eBay today; the date 1914/15 may help.

Also has the identical 5
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Re: Z. N. token with denomination 5. Any clues?
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2017, 01:52:12 PM »
Thank you all. Yes, the fives are pretty similar. Dating should be around there.

German-language, Slavic or Hungarian seem much more likely than Italian - Z is much commoner in those languages as an initial letter than in Italian.

I also thought that, just taking every possibility. Dalmatia was mostly under Italian influence still back then. If a company name is Croatian, it could still be in Italian domain of tokens.

As of Croatia or Slovenia, not a single token is attributed by initials only. One is wrongly attributed to Croatia (LM). I just miss the German literature which dealt with these pieces since they were minted, so it would come handy.

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Re: Z. N. token with denomination 5. Any clues?
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2017, 01:57:41 PM »
Also, it slightly reminds (with a different 5, but still knobbed) to this late XIX century token from Komiza, Vis. Also, it comes from the same lot of old tokens in Serbia. If it was Serbian, it would probably have been in Cyrillic (but it does not have to!). Maybe it's Hungarian indeed, but they have a fine online token database and I can't find a similar one.