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Sweden 2 öre 1877

Started by mrbadexample, March 23, 2017, 11:59:28 PM

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mrbadexample

Evening all.  :)

I recently acquired this 1877 2 öre, KM # 735. It's a pleasing grade but on closer inspection there are all sorts of things going on:

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Like this lamination flaw, for example:

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Some die cracks - 6 o'clock on the obverse; 9 o'clock on the reverse:


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And the Rs in the legend are missing their tops:

If that was a British penny of the same age they'd be saying it had Ks instead of Rs in the legend, and probably write a book about it.  ;D

I did wonder if the defective Rs is a recognised variety in Swedish numismatic circles, or not considered at all?

An interesting piece, anyway. I like it. :)

Figleaf

Fun discussion, mrbad. Lesson: it pays off to look at what you acquired, rather than just mark it off on your want list.

The flaking effect is typical for badly mixed metals.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

FosseWay

Quote from: mrbadexample on March 24, 2017, 12:11:51 AM

I did wonder if the defective Rs is a recognised variety in Swedish numismatic circles, or not considered at all?

Not AFAIK. The only varieties listed for 1877 in Myntboken are the short vs long variants of the text "Brödrafolkens väl" on the obverse. (The long text version is slightly rarer.)

Thulium

Nice example of this coin type!  :)  I notice a nearly broken top on the B as well. Sometimes letters/numbers break on punches and hubs, transferring the defect to the die. Other times, the die is polished too far and removes portions of letters or other design. In this case, the letters look pretty strong otherwise, so it might be broken letters--just my own guess.  I mostly collect the overdates and lettering varieties, so I'm unfamiliar with broken lettering.


mrbadexample

Quote from: Figleaf on March 24, 2017, 11:58:32 AM
Lesson: it pays off to look at what you acquired, rather than just mark it off on your want list.

I do like to have a good look. One day I'll find something important.  ;)

Quote from: FosseWay on March 24, 2017, 05:17:03 PM
Not AFAIK. The only varieties listed for 1877 in Myntboken are the short vs long variants of the text "Brödrafolkens väl" on the obverse. (The long text version is slightly rarer.)

To be honest it would surprise me if there were many collectors quite as barmy as the British bronze penny collectors. One dot out of place and everyone wants one.  ;D

Quote from: Thulium on March 24, 2017, 06:27:57 PM
Nice example of this coin type!  :)  I notice a nearly broken top on the B as well.

Thank you, I'm pleased with it, and yes, the top of the B is very weak. I like that lamination flaw best though - I've not seen one with the metal peeled back and struck into the coin like that before.

Globetrotter

Can I use this for numista?

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Quote from: Globetrotter on November 07, 2024, 02:53:31 PMCan I use this for numista?


Yes, permission granted for any of my images in perpetuity so no need to ask.  :)

Figleaf

:like: Tha's the spirit, mrbad (hoisting glass to your health).

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.