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Offline <k>

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Re: Currencies with "new" in their name
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2017, 06:51:54 PM »
Hmm, I had thought "yeni" meant thousand, for some reason. Anyway, I am nominating you for the Nobel Prize for Knowing the Most Words For "New" in Different Languages.   8)

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Re: Currencies with "new" in their name
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2017, 07:46:47 PM »
In fact they did that before. :) You may have seen coins with a "bin lira" denomination, like this one (image from gutefrage.net):



Well, that is a 250,000 lira piece; bin = thousand. (And those words that mean "new" do indeed go back to some common Indo-European root. In Europe you will find "non-n" words among the usual suspects, languages such as Finnish, Hungarian, or Basque.)

Brazil is a strange mix by the way. After a long period of Real coins, they introduced the Cruzeiro in 1942. That was replaced by the New Cruzeiro in 1967; three years later the word "New" was dropped. In 1986 the Cruzado came, followed by the New Cruzado three years later. As far as I know, these Cruzado Novo coins are the only ones that actually feature the word "novo".



(BCB/central bank image.) 1990, another Cruzeiro. 1993, the Cruzeiro Real, and (since 1994) the Real again.

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Re: Currencies with "new" in their name
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2017, 08:02:55 PM »
Then Turkey binned the "bin". Logical.  ;)

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Re: Currencies with "new" in their name
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2017, 08:23:50 PM »
Is there any word for "new" that does not begin with "n"?

Turkish, as noted: yeni.

It is not a coincidence that apart from Turkish all the languages noted thus far in this thread (English, Portuguese, Spanish, French, Hindi) are Indo-European, and all have an N-word for new.

In Finnish new is uusi but AFAIK when the markka was revalued it didn't explicitly say "new" on the new coins.

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Re: Currencies with "new" in their name
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2017, 08:33:43 PM »
There was a fashion in the 16th and 17th century to put MONETA NOVA (of place name) on the coins. The one below is a shilling from Reval (now Tallinn) from 1535; NOVA is mostly obliterated by the hole but it reads MONETA NOVA REVAL.

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Re: Currencies with "new" in their name
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2017, 08:35:17 PM »
And another, a liard from Ličge in the name of Bishop Louis (1456-1482) which reads MONETA NOVA FACTA HASS.

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Re: Currencies with "new" in their name
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2017, 10:00:29 PM »
Peru, sol d'oro and nuevo sol

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If you're interested in coin variants please find some English documentation here:
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Re: Currencies with "new" in their name
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2017, 10:09:22 PM »
Israel, new sheqel

chadash: new
Original Word: חָדָשׁ
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: chadash
Phonetic Spelling: (khaw-dawsh')
Short Definition: new

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If you're interested in coin variants please find some English documentation here:
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and in French on Michel's site (the presentations are not the same):
http://monnaiesetvarietes.esy.es/

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Re: Currencies with "new" in their name
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2017, 03:02:29 PM »
The MONETA NOVA coins bring up an interesting point. Today, we think of a currency as a single benchmark, with all coins and banknotes referring to that benchmark, though sometimes indirectly, through subsidiary benchmarks (e.g. cents, mils) or large multiples (e.g. milreis.) A small UK coin is 1 penny (note the 1.)

In the time the MONETA NOVA coins were struck, there were at least three, often more benchmark coins, each with multiples and divisions, sometimes connected, mostly to connect silver and copper. As an example, the Dutch benchmarks were duit (for coppers) stuiver (for small silver), daalder (for large silver) and gold rijder (for gold), with additional benchmark coins like leeuwendaalder, rijksdaalder and ducat made for export, as well as additional benchmarks of coins that were imported or allegedly struck according to foreign standards like ducaton patagon and florin. In that sort of thinking, a penny (note the article) is a benchmark coin that has a division (halfpenny) and a number of multiples (2, 3, 4 and 6 pence), but it is not a division of a sovereign. The term MONETA NOVA was indeed used to indicate a change of benchmark, but not a change of currency.

It is amusing to note that KM does not apply this distinction.

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Re: Currencies with "new" in their name
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2017, 05:01:49 AM »
India adopted the decimal system in 1957 and had introduced "Naya" or "New" in all coins below rupee to distinguish from old paise that was 64 units to Rupee to New Paise that was 100 units to Rupee.

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« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2017, 05:05:20 AM »
Similarly the 2 Naya Paise

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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2017, 05:06:08 AM »
The 5 Naya Paise

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« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2017, 05:07:09 AM »
The 10 Naya Paise

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« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2017, 05:07:37 AM »
The 25 Naya Paise

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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2017, 05:09:32 AM »
The 50 Naya Paise



The word Naya was dropped in 1964 when a new series design was incorporated. The 3 Paise and 20 paise coins do not have the word "Naya" as these were introduced much laters in 1964 and 1968.
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