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Offline Robbe

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Bologna, Quattrino 1744
« on: February 23, 2017, 10:09:41 PM »
Hi Everyone
I have s coin I have been trying to identify but can't seem to see anything that resembles it online. It is 21 mm across and weighs 1.7 grams but seems to be worn very thin. This coin may have been picked up in Europe during the 1st world war. It would seem to be easy to identify if someone has saw it before. I may have the photos upside down.
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Re: Unidentified coin or token
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2017, 10:36:13 PM »
Can you flip (make a mirror image of) the upper picture? It would seem to be back to front.

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Re: Unidentified coin or token
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2017, 11:02:29 PM »
Here is the coin flipped over, but it is stamped as first shown. Maybe someone made a phoney die and forgot to reverse the impression?

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Re: Unidentified coin or token
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2017, 11:33:59 PM »
BONONIA DOCET 1744...

A Quattrino from Bologna.
Possibly some sort of mint error, more likely someone messing about in a shed.
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Re: Unidentified coin or token
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2017, 12:48:46 AM »
Thank you for the reply. When I look up the coin you identified ,I can see that it is the same as mine. Both sides of my coin are stamped in reverse compared to the examples online. Thank you again and I will see if I can find out anything about any other coins like this stamped in reverse.
This is a great site and thank you everyone for your time and quick replies  :)
Reg O

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Re: Bologna, Quattrino 1744
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2017, 07:38:40 PM »
This is just thinking outloud...

If you sandwiched a piece of metal in between two genuine quattrino then gave everything a good whack you'd end up with what you have here.

This could well have been created at the time the coins were in use, but was it simply someone messing about or would it have fooled someone else into accepting it as a coin?   
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Re: Bologna, Quattrino 1744
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2017, 02:25:23 AM »
Hi andyg
 That is a thought, but if you did that the letters would be raised above the coin, but they are stamped into it. I was wondering if the old die was getting  damaged somehow, so they used the old die to punch the end of a new die and kept making coins, but that doesn't make much sense. Were these coins made with a machine, or were they hand punched?
Thank you for your reply
Reg O

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Re: Bologna, Quattrino 1744
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2017, 11:24:24 AM »
Hi andyg
 That is a thought, but if you did that the letters would be raised above the coin, but they are stamped into it.

The letters are raised on the original coin - so they would be incuse and mirrored when used as a stamp. 

I'd imagine these were made using a machine - but they are rather crude even so.
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Re: Bologna, Quattrino 1744
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2017, 03:30:15 PM »
I believe you have solved the riddle. I can see someone figuring out that this could be done and making some extra coins to spend at the local market or pub. lol. Thank you for your replies.
Reg O