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Started by Prosit, December 17, 2016, 02:03:11 AM

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Prosit

or as we say in Texas, Tres amigos  :)

Added these three friends to my collection, 1860, 1861 and 1862 KM 100.
First three cents in the decimal era.

From 1860 to 1980, which is 121 coin years I lack 9 years to finish the cents and maybe a type or two here and there.

As for the euro cents, I believe I have 1 year (2001)  :(

Dale

Figleaf

Congratulations with your good-looking tres amigos. For grading, look at the central part of the crown.

Quote from: Prosit on December 17, 2016, 02:03:11 AM
First three cents in the decimal era.

Not sure what you mean. The first circulating decimal cents of the Netherlands are dated 1817. They were issued under William I, but they are the same type as yours. The type was discontinued in 1877, under William III.

Early cents, especially those struck in Brussels (mint mark B) are hard to find, because they were overstruck in independent Belgium, to serve as 2 centimes pieces. The cents come with different mint master marks: torch (1819 - 1837 Utrecht), palm branch (1821 - 1828 Brussels), sword (1860 - 1873) and ax (1875 - 1877). Legal requirements were 100% copper, 3.945 grammes and 22 millimetres.

Varieties are mainly brockage, die rotation and off-metal strikes. In the presses used in Utrecht at this time, dies could be mounted in two positions, so die rotations are 180°. "Wrong" die alignments are known for 1821, 1822, 1823 and 1827. Off-metal strikes occur in gold (1823, 1826, 1827, 1875, 1876, 1877) and silver (1823, 1875, 1876, 1876 piedfort). All varieties are scarce to rare.

There are patterns dated 1817 and 1818. These are AFAIK all in public collections.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

Prosit

"Not sure what you mean. The first circulating decimal cents of the Netherlands are dated 1817. "

My mistake. When looking in my 1801-1900 Krause under Netherlands it first lists coins under the heading of:

Batavian Republic
then Kingdom of Holland
then Kingdom of the Netherlands
then a couple pages later they are listed under Decimal Coins.

I assumed that was the beginning of decimal coins. I should know better than to assume the catalog is accurate as it has proven to be inaccurate in many areas.

Dale

Figleaf

KM's sub-headings have long mystified or tickled me. One of their funnier labelling attempts is REPUBLIC, which means "independent" when the previous category was "colony". Reminds me of an electronic game my son played where a player could be "promoted" from kingdom to republic. I guess the next higher step is democracy? >:D

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

THCoins

Nice trio !
I completed a few series 1948-1980 when these were still in circulation here. Have a jam jar full of unsorted specimen. Unfortunately not so for the pre-1948 specimen.