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Offline saro

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Iranian civic copper fake
« on: November 16, 2016, 10:52:15 AM »
32 bids , 71 $... ::) I hope that no WoC member will  recognize here the coin he just bought on eBay... too beautiful to be honnest  ::)
Few months ago, that was an extraordinary other coin of Isfahan mint showing Fath 'Ali's portrait, an unexisting coin sold for (only..) 171 $; a copy of the rare presentation gold & silver coins of this ruler.
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Re: Iranian civic copper fake
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2016, 01:06:47 PM »
This is getting really bad now with dealers selling fakes and refusing to answer if questioned. Apparently this seller had another one struck from the same dies for sale a few months back  :o
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Re: Iranian civic copper fake
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2016, 03:52:47 PM »
Can you give more insight in why is it a fake? I'm no specialist on these coins, just curious.
Thanks,

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Re: Iranian civic copper fake
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2016, 07:01:52 PM »
Iranian civic coppers in mint state are of a great rarity but exist; but to find two identical coins with the same details /"same "dies" is exceptional and a similar coin has been sold 5 months ago by the same seller...
-  the script is thick and smooth and the design appears too soft.
-  fresh copper areas are visible on both faces and are suspect.
The best is to have a look on coins listed on Zeno database or on WoC and make a comparison... attractive coin but deceptive  :'(
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Re: Iranian civic copper fake
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2016, 07:38:20 PM »
I think this was sold by a UK based seller?
If not then there is a third copy of it...

always willing to trade modern UK coins for modern coins from elsewhere....

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Re: Iranian civic copper fake
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2016, 07:51:30 PM »
I think this was sold by a UK based seller?

Yes, and I send him a message 6 days before the end of bids, I am still waiting a reply...
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