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Great Mongols silver
« on: November 01, 2016, 01:22:46 AM »
I always liked this bold lettered silver coin that I bought as an anonymous Great Mongols dirhem issued in Almaliq (or Almaligh, Almalyk), Xinjiang, at the border of present-day Kazahkhstan, issued in 660 AH = 1262 AD.
Can you read it? Is the large word at the left picture center 'Allah', and that at the right picture 'Almaliq'?
I found one coin on Zeno (and nowhere else) that's a bit like this one, # 143861.
Technical data: looks like not very pure silver. 19 mm, 1,97 gr.
-- Paul
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Re: Great Mongols silver
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2016, 10:11:30 AM »
Indeed an intersting bold calligraphy. Seems to be a bit in the style of some of the earlier Khwarezmshah types.
Agree on your reading. On the right coin the chromesome like element is the contraction of A and L, so "Al" the circle is "M"and left to it "K". So "AlMK". It is not strange that a city name is written in a short form. However, there also is a word above this line. If this would be a name than the reading might change. This as AlMK then might also be read as Al-Mulk or Al-Malik which means "the King".

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Re: Great Mongols silver
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2016, 11:05:16 AM »
I didn't know chromosomes are looking like that... I thought those signs look like two exclamation marks!! Don't know what that says about us.
The coin on Zeno has a clear word above ALMK, can you read that?
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Re: Great Mongols silver
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2016, 02:49:01 PM »
That's funny, the upper line on the one on Zeno, could read the same, just a different spelling and differently stylized.
I think i have to start all over again.
Looking at some others, with better defined characters i would say the rigth one likely is Al-Malik / Al Azam. Then the mint name would have to be in the left.
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Re: Great Mongols silver
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2016, 03:16:27 PM »
According to Nyamaa's The Coins of Mongol Empire and Clan Tamgha of Khans (XIII-XIV), its Nyamaa-49:



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Re: Great Mongols silver
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2016, 11:11:24 AM »
Great, thanks Ram! That's another book I should look out for.
So in my left picture, in the centre is 'Almaligh'. The right one is not quite clear to me, what it says. Also, there's a word at the foot of the bold lettering, that's not in the book picture. Not ready yet...
-- Paul