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27 shillings or a Moidore (a portuguese gold coin) coin weight
« on: October 12, 2016, 04:58:50 PM »
S / 27 / 6 * 22
Brass
22.3mm
Depth 3.5mm
10.8g
Coin aligned
Consimilar

6 pennyweights & 22 grains = 10.7565925g

6 pennyweights x 1.55517 = 9.33102
Twenty four grains = 1 pennyweight
22 grains = 22 x 0.06479875 = 1.4255725

More info about the Portuguese gold coin here on Wiki, and a nice coin weight picture! 8)

Another from the same series, 21/- is here
S / 21 / 5 * 9
5 pennyweights & 9 grains = 8.35903875g

1/2 moidore = 5.3g here

Are there any other overseas coins that have circulated in the UK which have associated coin weights?
The reason I am asking is I have a 24s piece shown here.

Many thanks  ;D
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Re: 27 shillings or a Moidore (a portuguese gold coin) coin weight
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2016, 08:59:56 PM »
Scrub that, it's not consimilar!
The flourishes round the edge go the other way and there are differences in the text!!
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Re: 27 shillings or a Moidore (a portuguese gold coin) coin weight
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2016, 10:38:04 PM »
 A few pieces are listed here and I see a 18/- sterg ps valued at 24 shillings at one time.

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Re: 27 shillings or a Moidore (a portuguese gold coin) coin weight
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2016, 07:21:28 AM »
Many thanks Mal.   ;D I'll try and draw up a list in the meantime, that's if Windows 10 update allows me  ::)
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Re: 27 shillings or a Moidore (a portuguese gold coin) coin weight
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2016, 03:31:11 PM »
I see from skimming this piece  that there were frequent changes in gold and silver foreign coins values, understandably :(
It's also an excellent site for Irish tokens generally  8)
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Re: 27 shillings or a Moidore (a portuguese gold coin) coin weight
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2016, 04:14:50 PM »
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Re: 27 shillings or a Moidore (a portuguese gold coin) coin weight
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2016, 04:35:14 PM »
A few pieces are listed here and I see a 18/- sterg ps valued at 24 shillings at one time.

2 escudos is a half joe (listed as 18/- sterg) and weighs in at 7.16g.  So the 24s piece could possibly relate to a Half Joe.  ???
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Re: 27 shillings or a Moidore (a portuguese gold coin) coin weight
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2016, 07:42:34 PM »
A Moidore for your viewing pleasure:


Portugal gold 4000 Reis "Moidore" 1704, Lisbon

Specs: Gold, 29mm, 10.71gm

Obverse:
Order of Christ Cross (The Order of Christ was a Portuguese variant of the Crusader Knights Templar)
IN HOC SIGNO VINCES  / 1704 ("In This Sign, Conquer" from the Roman Emperor Constantine)

Reverse:
Crowned shield of Portugal
PETRVS II D G PORT ET ALG REX / 4000

Moidores were frequently mentioned in connection with pirates and pirate treasure.

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Re: 27 shillings or a Moidore (a portuguese gold coin) coin weight
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2016, 02:01:52 PM »
Ooh, that's very nice!  8)
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Re: 27 shillings or a Moidore (a portuguese gold coin) coin weight
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2016, 10:05:25 AM »
Maybe you should consider also that they may be for colonial use. The Joe and half Joe, for instance, were the standard gold coin of British Guiana. The British military there would probably have needed such weights on a daily basis.

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Re: 27 shillings or a Moidore (a portuguese gold coin) coin weight
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2016, 10:51:08 AM »
These coin weights would have been very necessary too in the colony of New South Wales; now part of Australia.

See Governor King's proclamation for the higher values placed on the coins listed in an endeavour to keep coinage in the colony.


BTW this should be 'were' not 'where' in this sentence: "where the standard gold coin of British Guiana." there seems a lot of confusion with these two words today for some strange reason making it difficult to read and understand correctly.
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