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Quote from: Figleaf on May 21, 2016, 02:57:28 PMI am sure geography (therefore climate and climate control, therefore innovation) played an important part in human development, but I think making it the only factor of importance is going too far. Your Pelagius example makes clear that religious dogma (therefore attitude towards wealth) played an important role also.
Quote from: Figleaf on May 21, 2016, 02:57:28 PMThe Pelagian discussion on free will and predestination was largely repeated in early Tudor times, due to Henry VIII's on-again-off-again policy towards religious conservatism and "radicalism". Is it a coincidence that England's rise from obscurity started with Elizabeth I? Religious extremism's influence is shown by England's stagnation beginning with Cromwell, that needed William III and Queen Anne to be rectified, setting the scene for its two centuries of glory.
Quote from: Figleaf on May 21, 2016, 12:14:25 PMAnyone who thinks Britain has embraced modernity wholeheartedly should have another look at pub fronts, judges in whigs, faux Tudor homes, TV programs on the 1940s, the train system, road signposts and circulation coins, though.
Quote from: Prosit on May 23, 2016, 08:05:59 PMFrom my distant perspective the things that come to mind when i think of Britain areTower of Big Ben, Tea time, Derby hats and canes, Hadrian's wall, A sea power that kicked bvtt for centuries,an incomprehensible sense of humor, a sense of superiority, the Thames river and tall ships.Guineas, tanners and bobs, and Pounds, Kings and Queens.Dale
Quote from: EWC on May 23, 2016, 10:01:15 AMYes, I noticed we kind of strayed away from your original question, and there I cannot really help you much, but will give my own immediate thoughts ICOI.Mostly what I would say is I much like what seems to be profound but subtle aspects of some traditional coin designs.For instance, the model for Britannia is very bland indeed, used for near every city in the Greek and Roman world. but I feel it works here because in a sort of subliminal way, Britannia is, very roughly, the actual shape of the island.And I suspect the very successful George and Dragon design had some deep roots in the opposition to Napoleon (although critics focussing on London's role in global finance might easily turn that picture up side down!)One very off centre comment about coin design I recall is from one of the 17th century Ranters – (Winstanley, I think). He claimed that if you added up the numerical value of the letters in the legend of an Oliver Cromwell Crown, the answer was 666. False and crazy of course - but still - some sort of subtle and ambiguous puzzle might catch the public imagination, and hit the jackpot.So my Plan A is to dig into old, perhaps very old, existing coin designs, and see what new spin could be put on them.A europhile Plan B might be to look at my favourite cartoonist, Grandville. Lewis Carroll seems to have been primarily inspired by the pre-existing drawings of Grandville............I spose all that makes me a reactionary kind of fellow.Rob