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Pound Coins Defaced by Scottish Nationalists
« on: February 02, 2016, 04:42:35 AM »
Pound coins defaced by pro-independence campaigners

KATERINE SUTHERLAND

HARDLINE nationalists are altering pound coins as part of a campaign to declare independence.

Blue and black stickers which read “Scottish UDI movement” - Unilateral Declaration of Independence - have started to appear on currency across the country.

The holographic stickers cover the Queen’s head on one side of the coin, and depict blue wording set over the outline of a Saltire.

The UDI movement sprang up shortly after the independence referendum returned a strong majority in favour of staying with the Union.

One coin recently turned up at a business in Dundee. A worker, who does not wish to be named, said: “I went to buy a chocolate orange bar and pulled this funny looking coin out of my pocket.

“I must have picked it up in change without realising. It was pretty weird but it seems someone is trying to make a point.”.

Murdo Fraser, the Conservative Mid Scotland and Fife MSP, said: “After the troubles that the Yes campaign had on the currency issue, it now appears that some more extreme members have taken the matter into their own hands by defacing pound coins.

“I hope the public won’t be fooled by these tactics and that anyone who receives these dodgy designs will hand them straight back.

“The pound sterling has served us very well as a currency and we shouldn’t be defacing it.”

UDI campaigners claim the No vote was based on “fear, lies and fraud” and want Scotland to declare it’s own independence.

It refers to the referendum as a “riggerendum”. A Facebook page for the UDI movement reads: “The Whole Referendum was based on fear and lies and fraud.

“We can not trust the democratic process where our freedom is concerned.

“ No-one is mentioning the riggerendum, it is all being brushed under the carpet. If we do not declare Independence now many will suffer.

A spokeswoman for the Royal Mint said: “The Royal Mint strongly disapproves of such action as it could bring in to question the integrity of the United Kingdom coinage”.

In 2006, an Edinburgh taxi firm was criticised by the Royal Mint for attaching promotional stickers to £1 coins in an advertising campaign.

Source: Scotsman
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Re: Pound Coins Defaced by Scottish Nationalists
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2016, 09:53:57 AM »
It is a considerable exaggeration to call a sticker "defacing". I suppose the journalist has an agenda. Hint: in Euroland, stickers on coins are allowed and it is rare to see one.

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Re: Pound Coins Defaced by Scottish Nationalists
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2016, 01:23:21 PM »
I'm fine with political propaganda of any stamp. It's a free country, after all - supposedly. However, will shops accept pound coins with any sort of sticker on them? And how easy is it to remove these stickers? Do they leave hard-to-remove traces of paper and gum/glue? If shops reject such coins, and / or the stickers are hard to remove, then the people who "stick" them are doing a discourtesy to the public. After all, the whole point of coins (and one with which Figleaf wholeheartedly agrees) is that they circulate. This means that they are used by many people during the lifetime of the coin. And some coins circulate longer than some people are alive. As a child in the 1960s, I occasionally used to receive in change Victorian halfpennies that had been minted in the 1860s.
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Re: Pound Coins Defaced by Scottish Nationalists
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2016, 08:53:28 PM »
If they're going to go to the trouble of defacing coins, at least choose a denomination that isn't going to be withdrawn next year (it only mentions £1 coins)!  As so many are fake and the genuine ones wear so badly, I don't think too many people will mind.  Might even be an improvement.

It's illegal to obscure the Queen's portrait on coins isn't it?

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Re: Pound Coins Defaced by Scottish Nationalists
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2016, 10:24:57 PM »
Are they even defacing the Scottish ones? Or just the English or UK ones?

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Re: Pound Coins Defaced by Scottish Nationalists
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2016, 10:54:15 PM »
There are no Scottish pound coins, merely UK ones with Scottish designs as there are for the other three nations.

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Re: Pound Coins Defaced by Scottish Nationalists
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2016, 11:08:33 PM »
Nothing new....
always willing to trade modern UK coins for modern coins from elsewhere....

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Re: Pound Coins Defaced by Scottish Nationalists
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2016, 08:46:31 AM »
When I lived in scotland, it was my practice to remind people from time to time that when the scottish pound was devaled it was worth, as I best recall, 6d (ie 5% of the english pound)

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Re: Pound Coins Defaced by Scottish Nationalists
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2016, 06:55:38 PM »
There are no Scottish pound coins, merely UK ones with Scottish designs as there are for the other three nations.

Er, yes? Did I say different? Ever since the days of the separate "English" and "Scottish" shillings it has been perfectly normal usage among collectors and people with a general interest in the coinage to refer to English and Scottish (and Welsh and N Irish) shillings, pound coins and, in the case of the 2002 Commonwealth Games issue, £2 coins.

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Re: Pound Coins Defaced by Scottish Nationalists
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2016, 07:10:05 PM »
It was just that you said Scottish ones as opposed to "English or UK ones" as though Scottish-design £1 coins aren't UK coins, and that Wales or Northern Ireland aren't even worth a mention!  I was probably being a bit pedantic.  Some people with less knowledge about coins think that the individual nations' designs are the same as, say, Isle of Man, Gibraltar, Guernsey, Jersey etc £1 coins, when they aren't.  Your first post just read that way, that's all.

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Re: Pound Coins Defaced by Scottish Nationalists
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2016, 09:02:48 PM »
I mentioned English and UK variants in particular because it tends to be the English, rather than the rest of the UK, that are the targets of Scottish nationalism. I was simply wondering whether they chose to leave coins with thistles, saltires, the Forth Bridge and such unmolested...