Old Marshal Wellington Token Half Penny 1814"The Deliverer of Portugal and Spain

[DarkSithLord]

Hello Gents. I am just wondering if you could ask for any advice as to the value and/or history of this?
Hello is a link to one.

http://www.coinsandcanada.com/tokens-medals-commercial.php?title=marshall-1/2-penny-1814&id=189

Please see the attached images for my example.

Many Thanks in advance for any help. It is much appreciated.

[Figleaf]

I presume it was classified as Canadian because the obverse is the same as Breton 976. However, Breton was notoriously inclusive. The modern equivalent of this token is Charlton WE-5. Charlton notes: This token is an anonymous Irish piece from the county of Dublin. It is antedated (1805) and the engraver is unknown. The token was found only in small quantities in Canada. It is indeed listed by Davis as Dublin 60.

It looks like the token die was combined with a new reverse and used to strike commercial medals. The most logical places where this would have happened are London and Birmingham around or after 1823, when tokens were no longer accepted in Ireland and the token die pair had become obsolete. Things are sometimes not logical, though.

Peter

[DarkSithLord]

Fascinating. Thanks for the reply Peter.

Have you ever seen one come up come up for sale before?

Cant find much info on the internet regarding this. Thanks

[bagerap]

Is it just the lighting, or is your token silvered? It's certainly as good as any I've seen, and they don't come up for sale too often either.

[DarkSithLord]

Hi there.

I thought that myself. It isnt the lighting it does appear "silvered" in hand?

A very nice piece and interesting piece. Thanks for the replies.

[constanius]

Listed in BHM#792,  AE RR; AE silvered RR; Br. RR. 26mm.

So yours is silvered RR = very rare.

Peter is correct that the 1805 token has the same obverse, which was then re-used.

Being as it is not strictly a token but a commemorative medal, I see no reason for it not to have been issued as dated.
Pat

[DarkSithLord]

Hi Constanius. Thanks for the reply.

Which reference guide are you referring to with #BHM 792?

Looks like I may have really have quite a find! Think I may have to get this looked at by a Third Party.

[constanius]

BHM = British Historical Medals by Brown 3 vols.

Unfortunately medals are not very expensive, good if you are a buyer(like me), not so good if you want to sell.

Still a very nice find.

Pat