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Iran, civic copper of Qom / galloping horse
« on: September 05, 2015, 06:02:06 PM »
a worn coin indeed... at first view, I think it's a horse ?  which could be a deer (or a roe) attacked by an animal of which only a shadow is seen (tiger, lion, eagle ?...)
The other face gives  good parts of "...falus Q......" still legible.

7,90g / 24-25mm
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Re: Afghanistan civic copper of Qandahar / animal (?) attacking a deer
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2015, 07:06:45 PM »
You never cease to amaze me with your ability to reconstruct texts on coins, Saro. You must have an incredible number of Afghan civic coppers in your collection and even more on file. Ever thought of classifying them in a systematic way? It seems to be one of the last uncatalogued wildernesses of numismatics.

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Re: Iran, civic copper of Qom / galloping horse
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2015, 08:53:39 AM »
You must have an incredible number of Afghan civic coppers in your collection and even more on file

Unfortunately, no more than a plate for both afghan and iranian civic coppers... and yes,  I have gathered a good number of pictures from various sources, but not enough to catalogue these attractive coins with so much types and varieties; Valentine's book, published in 1911, is still the easier available reference...

I would be please to learn if a member has ever seen the recently published book "Copper Coins of Iran"  ???
http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,20036.0html.html
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Re: Afghanistan civic copper of Qom / animal (?)
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2015, 10:08:43 AM »
A popular theme for die engravers, very similar coins with a Lion attacking a Deer are of Iran, I have 2 but neither are good strikes
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Re: Iran, civic copper of Qom / galloping horse
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2015, 03:41:25 PM »
These coins are itching to be documented properly and is probably a monstrous task but one that needs to be done.  I just started getting into these civic coppers and the designs are outstanding.  Finding good specimens seems to be a challenge though...
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Re: Iran, civic copper of Qom / galloping horse
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2015, 10:01:38 AM »
Finding good specimens seems to be a challenge though...
I fully agree ! and when they are listed by dealers, prices are not reasonable...
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Re:Iran, civic copper of Qom / galloping horse
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2016, 01:20:01 PM »
Thank you dear escapist for these illustrations, these coins are always fascinating...

It's an opportunity to apologise and  to correct the identification : I was wrong when I thought that the "qaf" with its 2 dots was the beginning of "Qandahar" :-[ : this coin is a persian civic copper and the mint is "Qom"قم , this is good news indeed, as it isn't a very common mint  :)
The animal is well a horse galloping to right (and there is not other animal over it)

This coin is present in "Persian Copper Coins" from Bahram Alaedini
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Re:Iran, civic copper of Qom / galloping horse
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2016, 01:45:48 PM »
I would be please to learn if a member has ever seen the recently published book "Copper Coins of Iran"  ???
http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,20036.0html.html

This book is now available, it covers 272 persian copper coins of the Safavid through Qajar periods; it's a beautiful book (not a catalogue) with high quality pictures.
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