My conder tokens

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Siberian Man

And the last one. I don't know from where this coin too. I can't read the caption on edge: Gilbertturthiam or something in the similar.

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Quote from: Siberian Man on May 04, 2015, 06:01:17 PM
Norwich halfpenny.

DH Norfolk 28. arms on crossed sword and mace, palm leaves (glory) below / shop frontof the issuer, Dunham & Yallop, goldsmiths. Edge should be PAYABLE AT THE SHOP OF DUNHAM & YALLOP GOLD-SMITHS.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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Quote from: Siberian Man on May 04, 2015, 06:03:29 PM
Hereford halfpenny.

DH Herefordshire 5. Apple tree (cider is made from apples) / Justice. Edge may be milled, plain or it may read PAYABLE IN ANGLESEY LONDON OE LIVERPOOL.X. Please let us know which edge you have. Issued by C. Honiatt, who was mayor of Hereford. Die sinker: Arnold, a prolific engraver of token halfpennies from Birmingham.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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Quote from: Siberian Man on May 04, 2015, 06:04:27 PM
Kent halfpenny.

DH Kent 35. Arms of Sussex / arms of Canterbury. Edge should be: PAYABLE BY M. LAMB & SON --:--. Mr. Lamb's business was in Lamberhurst, which is partly in Sussex, partly in Kent (canterbury is in Kent.) Engraved by Peter Wyon (1767-1822), Cock street, St. Paul's, Birmingham (1777.)

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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Quote from: Siberian Man on May 04, 2015, 06:07:02 PM
Leeds halfpenny.

DH Yorkshire 51. Bishop Blaze with lamb and wool-combe. / Arms of Leeds. The fleece on the arms refers to the woollen trade. Edge should be PAYABLE AT THE WAREHOUSE OF RICHARD PALEY, who was a tallow chandler (cheap candles) in the Calls, Leeds.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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Quote from: Siberian Man on May 04, 2015, 06:08:34 PM
Benenden halfpenny.

DH Kent 4. Wheatsheaf (food) / Arms (of Benenden?) by Peter Wyon. Edge should be plain.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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Quote from: Siberian Man on May 04, 2015, 06:10:27 PM
Manchester halfpenny.

DH Lancashire 135. Porter with bale / arms of the Egerton family before acquiring the earl's title. Eight different edges known. Please let us know which one yours has. Issued by I. Fieldings, Manchester, grocer and tea dealer. Dies by Arnold, Mainwaring and Dixon.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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Quote from: Siberian Man on May 04, 2015, 06:13:10 PM
Middlesex halfpenny.

Not Middlesex but Sussex. Different Saxons. :)

DH Sussex 5. Bust of the later George IV, as crown prince. / Prince of Wales' crest. Edge should be PAYABLE AT LONDON OR BRIGHTON. Original issuer was Richard Maplesden of Winchelsea, but the type was made in great quantity for sale to collectors and the address is fake. Brighton is 74 kilometers (46 miles) from Winchelsea.
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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Quote from: Siberian Man on May 04, 2015, 06:14:14 PM
Macclesfield halfpenny.

DH Cheshire 23. Bust of Charles Roe / Woman with cogwheel and drill before a windlass. Issuer was Messrs Roe & Co., Macclesfield. Die sinker was John Gregory Hancock (1775-1815) of Birmingham.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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Quote from: Siberian Man on May 04, 2015, 06:16:08 PM
Huddersfield halfpenny.

DH Yorkshire 15. East India House in London (reconstructed since, so it no longer looks like this) / Grocer's arms. Edge can be plain, LONDON BRISTOL AND LIVERPOOL or PAYABLE AT IOHN DOWNINGS HUDDERSFIELD, who was a grocer and tea dealer.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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Quote from: Siberian Man on May 04, 2015, 06:23:54 PM
Liverpool halfpenny.

DH Lancashire 107. Frigate under sail / arms of Liverpool (a cormorant holding a branch of laver). Original issuer was Thomas Clark. This is an imitation not issued by him. There are four possible edges. Please let us know which one is on your coin.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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Quote from: Siberian Man on May 04, 2015, 06:33:04 PM
Birmingham halfpenny.

DH Warwickshire 97. Woman sitting on a rock holding fasces (acting together.) / Stork (wealth) on cornucopia (abundance). Issued by the Birmingham Mining and Copper Company, formed to prevent a local monopoly for copper and brass by John Wilkinson.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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Quote from: Siberian Man on May 04, 2015, 06:35:40 PM
I don't know where this coin circulated. No caption on edge.

DH Cambridgeshire 15. A beehive with bees (industriousness) / A stork (wealth). Edge can be milled, plain or PAYABLE IN LONDON. Dies were sunk by Peter Wyon. The stork die was originally meant for tokens from Petersfield in Hampshire, manufactured by a London dealer, Kempson. The beehive die is also from Kempson, for a Cambridgeshire token. This dealer is known for tokens made for sale to collectors, so it is quite possible that this token was either for collectors or for an anonymous buyer, who did not plan to redeem them.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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Quote from: Siberian Man on May 04, 2015, 06:41:08 PM
And the last one. I don't know from where this coin too. I can't read the caption on edge: Gilbertturthiam or something in the similar.

DH Cheshire 76. Charles Roe / Vulcan. Edge: PAYABLE AT G. GILBERTS NORTHIAM. This is a known token issuer in Sussex. Nothing is known about him, so his business was likely quite small. It is highly unlikely that a small trader would dare to combine well known dies of big companies, so the address is likely bogus. This would be another product of a London coin manufacturer.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

Siberian Man

Thank you very much Sir! It is very interesting and important information!