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Offline mrmoon

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3 coins need help
« on: February 24, 2015, 04:46:43 AM »
My grandpa gave me a box of coins he brought back from Europe and gave them to me a few years ago iv identified most of them but these three have me stumped and iv been itching to know what they are.


19 mm and 7mm thick
The third is 25 mm









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Re: 3 coins need help
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2015, 06:40:04 AM »
The third one seems to be a counting token - Rechenpfennig
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Re: 3 coins need help
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2015, 04:11:03 PM »
Thatnks for the reply! What is a counting token and it says saint Marc on or side

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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2015, 04:46:29 PM »
The beginning of the article shows a table for counting with the help of counting tokens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeton
The second link will give you enough samples of counting tokes, many of which were made in Nurnberg.
http://www.ma-shops.com/shops/search.php5?searchstr=Deutschland+Rechenpfennig+Nurnberg&lang=en
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Re: 3 coins need help
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2015, 06:40:41 PM »
Please remove the other two coins and post them again in a separate thread. They belong on three different boards. Thank you.

Peter
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Re: 3 coins need help
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2015, 06:45:19 PM »
The middle one looks Islamic but photo is too dark to see
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Re: 3 coins need help
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2015, 07:03:32 PM »
Figleaf  I'll move the first to the Roman coin board but I have no idea where to even put the second one.

And capnbirdseye I'll get some better pictures and to replace the ones I have posted. Thanks

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Re: 3 coins need help
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2015, 10:47:35 AM »
You can put them on this board. When it is identified, it will be moved to the correct board.

The second photo is indeed much too dark. Chase up contrast and lighten it, don't worry about the colour. While you are at it, cut away the superfluous background and make your picture bigger. Else take a new picture. Even at best, people cannot see all details.

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Re: 3 coins need help
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2015, 12:13:09 PM »
As best I can tell I think this is the right way up, could be either Mughal or Sultanate but currently not clear enough to be sure & the weight is also most important as it can give an instant clue
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Re: 3 coins need help
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2015, 02:46:35 PM »
So I need seprate threads for each coin posted to the unidentified items board ?  If that's right I'll keep that in mind.

I got better pictures but I will edit them before posting and I'll get the weight when I get off work.

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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2015, 04:55:37 PM »
Yes it is now in the right way !  and it is with few doubt, a mughal coin. I think that I can read "zarb (B)aira(t) on right picture.

Please mrmoon, could you give us the weight ? as Capnbirdseye says, it could be decisive.


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Re: 3 coins need help
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2015, 05:11:22 AM »
20grams

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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2015, 10:07:23 AM »
Thank you for the weight, it's with no doubt a mughal dam of Bairat mint, probably of Jahangir.
Letters of legends are thick and the left scan should include the ruler's name...at top it seems that there is a date ending by the digit "4" (at 2 o'clock.
Here the reverse with "zarb Bairat", unable to say more ... ???
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Re: 3 coins need help
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2015, 11:03:09 AM »
Great id, saro!

All that's left to do now is split the first post.

Peter
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