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Offline Pabitra

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20 and 25 as denominations
« on: January 31, 2015, 01:28:08 PM »
In, http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,15809.msg194314.html#msg194314 Reply#73, <k> wrote about  Rhodesia "Like Jamaica, it was one of the few countries to issue both a 20 cents and a 25 cents coin".

Which are the other countries which have issued such close denominations in their circulation coins? India is one of them.



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Re: 20 & 25 as denominations.
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2015, 01:47:41 PM »
"it was one of the few countries to issue both a 20 cents and a 25 cents coin".

To be more exact, I should have written, "it was one of the few countries to issue both a 20 cents and a 25 cents coin simultaneously". However, in the context of the post, where images of the relevant coins are included (both dated 1975), I think this is clear.

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Re: 20 & 25 as denominations.
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2015, 01:52:23 PM »
Nepal:
20 Paisa, KM#738 (1953-54)
25 Paisa, KM#739 (1953-55, 1957)

Bhutan:
20 Chetrums, KM#39 (1974)
25 Chetrums, KM#40.1 (1974)
25 Chetrums, KM#40.2 (1974-75)
25 Chetrums, KM#47 (1979)
25 Chetrums, KM#47a (1979)
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Re: 20 & 25 as denominations.
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2015, 02:45:59 PM »
Similar, but not quite the same a few countries had 10 and 15 (at the same time), Bahamas and Russia spring to mind.
always willing to trade modern UK coins for modern coins from elsewhere....

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Re: 20 & 25 as denominations.
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2015, 07:47:22 PM »
Britain has a penny and two pence coins. It also used to circulate a halfpenny and penny simultaneously, and even a ¼d in predecimal times. You can't really get much closer than that, as denominations go.

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Re: 20 & 25 as denominations.
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2015, 08:19:45 PM »
That's one way of looking at it, in absolute terms. In those terms the lower denominations always win. However, in relative terms, the situation is more complicated. The difference between a penny and a halfpenny is 50%. The difference between a 10 and a 15 kopeck is only 33%. The difference between a 20 cent and a 25 cent is just 20%.

At one time, the Netherlands had coins of 3 gulden and 2½ gulden circulating side by side. A difference of 17%, easily beating the difference between the double florin and the crown in Britain (20%), but bested by the difference between the coins of 6 stuivers and 5½ stuivers circulating towards the end of the 17th century, with a difference of as little as 8% :)

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Re: 20 & 25 as denominations.
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2015, 10:49:56 PM »
Nearly 150 years ago, an attempt was made to have both the double dime (20 cents) and the quarter dollar (25 cents) co-circulate in the USA.  The double dime lost out very quickly.
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Re: 20 & 25 as denominations.
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2015, 03:16:20 PM »
And for most type collectors that 20c is a tough one to get.
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Nearly 150 years ago, an attempt was made to have both the double dime (20 cents) and the quarter dollar (25 cents) co-circulate in the USA.  The double dime lost out very quickly.

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Re: 20 and 25 as denominations
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2017, 09:28:18 PM »
Imperial Russia - 20 and 25 kopeks.

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Re: 20 and 25 as denominations
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2017, 10:32:43 PM »
I have no idea how prevalent the relevant coins actually were in practice, but in theory in the first decade of the 19th century you could have encountered ¼, ½, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 10 pence, and 1 shilling (12 pence) coins in Ireland. The 5 and 10 pence coins were peculiar denominations issued as bank tokens, while the others were standard British coin of the realm.

I suspect that the reason for issuing the 5 and 10 pence coins was a shortage of regal silver, but in theory the ratio of the 5d to the 6d and the 10d to the shilling matches that of Peter's 2.50 and 3 gulden coins.

Below is the 10 pence from 1805.

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Re: 20 and 25 as denominations
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2017, 11:53:41 PM »
Currently Tajikistan is one of the countries that still have 20 and 25 in their denominations as dirams.
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Re: 20 and 25 as denominations
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2017, 08:11:21 PM »
Estonia 20 senti - 1935 and 25 senti 1928.


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Re: 20 and 25 as denominations
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2017, 09:18:58 AM »
Canada issued the 20 cent denomination in 1858, but stopped there.    Newfoundland struck the 20 cent denomination in 1865.   In 1870 Newfoundland resumed issuing 20 cent pieces but Canada switched to 25 cents.   Newfoundland issued its last 20 cent coin in 1912, and began 25 cents in 1917.   I have in my collection an 1899 Newfoundland 20 cents, from my father, gotten in St. Johns during the war on his convoy escort duty back and forth to Iceland on a sub chaser.   Cold water, big waves, small ship.   Curiously they never even sighted a U-boat.   His ship was sold to the French navy in 1946, and hit a leftover German mine in 1950.   Blew it apart.    Newfoundland and Canada currency should have been at par.   

They also maintained simultaneous large and small cents, from 1920 to 1936, and nickel 5 cents versus silver from 1929-47.   Stuck in the past or something, those Newfies.

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Re: 20 and 25 as denominations
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2017, 05:03:12 PM »
Actually, the Newfoundland dollar was long not equivalent to the Canadian dollar. CAD was linked to USD, but the Newfoundland dollar was linked to UK colonial standard dollars...

Adm. Nimitz (Triumph in the Atlantic) says that, though highly successful, there were only 5 U-boats in the Western Atlantic in the first months after Pearl Harbor, against 30 boats in the mid-Atlantic. Also, the long-range boats were diverted to the Caribbean as more merchantmen were escorted.

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Re: 20 and 25 as denominations
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2017, 11:35:27 PM »
Peter, I have an old book which shows the exchange rates of world currencies at their pre-World War 1 gold-backed levels.   The book is from the early 1920's.     It says the Canadian and Newfoundland dollar were both the same as the US.   

The Newfoundland $2 gold was issued 1865-88.    I had never looked at that, not having any.   It is inscribed "Two Hundred cents... One Hundred Pence"    That would make it US $1.014 if the pound was $4.8665.   The amount of gold in the coin compared to Canadian gold coins concurs exactly, if Canada was at par with the US.   Newfoundland silver content was never adjusted, but silver prices were so low in the 1880's-1914 that a 1.4% change wouldn't have mattered.