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Mughals: Jahandar Shah (AH1124), Various Rupees
« on: March 15, 2009, 10:22:02 AM »
Jahandar Shah (AH1124), Rupee (Abu'l Fateh Couplet), KM 363.21

Jahandar Shah (AH1124) (Jahandar="World-owner")
Accession: 10 April 1712
Deposition: 3 Jan 1713



Obverse Abu'l Fateh Couplet:
Dar Aafak Zad Sikka Chun Mihr Wa Mah
Abu Al-Fateh Ghazi Jahandar Shah

Stuck Coin in the horizons like sun and moon
Father of Victory, Fighter against Infidels, Jahandar Shah



Reverse Zarb Dar Al Khilafat Shahjahanabad Mubarak Sanah Ahd (Stuck at Seat of Caliphate Shahjahanabad [in the] Auspecious Year 1 [of his reign])


(Ref. KM#363.21)
« Last Edit: March 18, 2009, 02:27:43 AM by Overlord »

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Overlord,
A very nice coin. The coin is almost complete. I believe the coins of Jahandar Shah are not very common and to get a coin with such details is great.
Amit
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Thanks asm. I think coins such as this one and those in poor condition have their own pros and cons. The ones in good condition are great to look at but not so much fun or challenging to work with. Those in poor condition may not be much to look at but it is often great fun trying to figure out the inscription.

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From Oesho:

Coins of Jahandar Shah are indeed not very common, but still despite his short reign his coins are more numerous as those of the other rulers of a similar short reign. Of several mints, two varieties of coins in his name are known; one with the Abu'l Fateh - couplet and the other of the Sahib Qiran - couplet.
Of the above so nicely illustrated coin of Shajahanabad mint, two more varieties are known with the Abu'l-Fateh couplet, as well as a variety with the Sahib Qiran - legend.

The above coin has the legend in four lines on the obverse. The coin shown below has the obverse legend in three lines. Moreover the legend also differs slightly. Instead of  Dar aafaq zad sikkah chun mihr o mah, the legend reads: Dar aafaq zad sikkah bar mihr wa mah. Also the reverse differs considerable from the above illustrated coin.
(insert  Jahandar Shah Shahjahanabad 1)


The next coin is quite similar to the coin illustrated by Overlord, but also has the Dar aafaq zad sikkah bar mihr wa mah legend, as on the former coin.
(insert  Jahandar Shah Shahjahanabad 2)



The third addition shows the issue of Shahjahanabad mint with the Sahib Qiran - legend. The couplet on this coin reads:
Bazad sikkah bar zar chu sahib qiran
Jahandar Shahe bad shah Jahan

The coins show the richness of design and the use of poetic couplets on the Mughal coins.

(insert  Jahandar Shah Shahjahanabad 3)



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Oesho and Richie,
The coins are wonderful. I have said it in the past and I repeat it here: I have increased my knowledge as well as interest in the hobby manifold after joining here. It is just like I was in a school teaching numismatics. We get a lot of historic information, we learn about coins as well as history, clear doubts, get help to identify coins and learn to read coins (Overlord, I hope you are listening!). We even get to see a variety of coins from different collections, which would not be possible in a museum.
I hope we continue like this for many years to come.
Amit
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Re: Mughals: Jahandar Shah (AH1124), Various Rupees
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2009, 10:08:04 AM »
Thanks asm. I think coins such as this one and those in poor condition have their own pros and cons. The ones in good condition are great to look at but not so much fun or challenging to work with. Those in poor condition may not be much to look at but it is often great fun trying to figure out the inscription.
Overlord,
I fully agree with you. it is indeed a challange to read worn out coins. However, when it comes to viewing, deep struck and coins with full details give an excellent visual effect. As the saying goes, One mans meat is another mans' poison. For a scholar like you, a worn out coin poses a greater challange. For a novice like me, I need a good coin to be even able to identify the area or the dynasty which coined it.
Amit
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Re: Mughals: Jahandar Shah (AH1124), Various Rupees
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2013, 01:49:17 PM »
Just wondering at the variations in the legend on coins of an emperor who ruled less than a year. Any thought of what would have been in store for us poor collectors if he had lived a little longer?

Amit
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Re: Mughals: Jahandar Shah (AH1124), Various Rupees
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2013, 02:14:39 PM »
Well there is one more than most folks think.

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Re: Mughals: Jahandar Shah (AH1124), Various Rupees
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2013, 02:36:08 PM »
Well there is one more than most folks think.

1) Legend in four lines: Dar Aafak Zad Sikka Chun Mihr Wa Mah Abu Al-Fateh Ghazi Jahandar Shah
2a) Legend in three lines. Dar aafaq zad sikkah bar mihr wa mah. Abu Al-Fateh Ghazi Jahandar Shah Also the reverse differs a lot.
2b) Legend in four lines: Dar aafaq zad sikkah bar mihr wa mah Abu Al-Fateh Ghazi Jahandar Shah
3) Sahib Qiran Legend: Bazad sikkah bar zar chu sahib qiran Jahandar Shahe bad shah Jahan

So beyond these 3 or 4 as one puts it, there is another one? ??? :o :o :o :o

Amit
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Re: Mughals: Jahandar Shah (AH1124), Various Rupees
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2013, 02:41:57 PM »
I will catch up this weekend.

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Re: Mughals: Jahandar Shah (AH1124), Various Rupees
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2014, 08:51:40 PM »
Found a fifth variety in Jahandar Shah Shahjahanabad
The legend reads
 Legend in three lines. Dar aafaq zad sikkah chun mihr wa mah. Abu Al-Fateh Ghazi Jahandar Shah.
The reverse is also completely different from the other 3 line type with 'bar' instead of 'chun'
Dr.Abhishek

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Re: Mughals: Jahandar Shah (AH1124), Various Rupees
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2014, 09:04:49 AM »
Please let me know on this coin. I can't seem to find another similiar coin on net.. is this subtype known???
Dr.Abhishek

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Re: Mughals: Jahandar Shah (AH1124), Various Rupees
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2014, 12:42:11 PM »
Please let me know on this coin. I can't seem to find another similiar coin on net.. is this subtype known???

Abhishek

Check bhargava auction 10-  lot 495 to 498 different varieties of JS  - Shahjahanabad,


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Re: Mughals: Jahandar Shah (AH1124), Various Rupees
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2014, 06:43:20 AM »
Please let me know on this coin. I can't seem to find another similiar coin on net.. is this subtype known???
I've been informed by a well wisher (who is not a member) that this type is known and is a published verity. Now to look around and find it.

Amit
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