Author Topic: Brass boxes (model coins)  (Read 20567 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline malj1

  • Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6 778
  • "illegitimi non carborundum"
    • Mals Machine Tokens
Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2015, 11:58:09 AM »
The diameter of the snuff box is 13.8mm.

I shall go through and edit to add sizes; it was quite a task to do all these.
Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.

Offline malj1

  • Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6 778
  • "illegitimi non carborundum"
    • Mals Machine Tokens
Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2015, 12:23:23 PM »
Another, this disappeared from my scans.

WILLM COLE LIVERPOOL ST 23.5mm.

The reverse of this box is a little different from that used for the Windsor Castle box.
Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.

Offline mooreman

  • New Member
  • *
  • Posts: 47
Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2015, 05:25:02 AM »
 hello malji, I haven't been able to get on to post for some reason, The William Cole box is a rare one, only ever seen one other in over 20 years, and that is in my collection, still I`m sure that others are out there. Thank you for putting them on. If you have the boxes made as  coins, R4091 and R4092 are the same box.

Offline malj1

  • Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6 778
  • "illegitimi non carborundum"
    • Mals Machine Tokens
Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2015, 05:57:37 AM »
Yes I just had a look and its as you say; obviously the base would be of a smaller measurement than the complete box.

I have a base only for the Princes of Wales box as well as the complete box. Always hoping to find a lid to suit!

Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.

Offline malj1

  • Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6 778
  • "illegitimi non carborundum"
    • Mals Machine Tokens
Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2015, 06:08:18 AM »
See Rogers section B 10 matchbox type boxes for Lauer's toy coins.

I have a very similar one, the lid is impressed  with “The British Automatic Company Limited - Appold Street London E.C." Iron, 47mm X 32mm X 13.5mm. See my B.A.C. page here.



This is from the same maker;
A small tin plate “Jahncke's Patent” match safe, Ernest Jahncke, a tin box manufactures of Canonbury Works, Dorset Street, Islington. Founded in 1873 by Ernest Jahncke and incorporated in 1893. This type of tin box was patented 15 May 1880 and produced until 1925.

Bryant and May acquired an interest in 1895 with the Jahncke boxes being used for their wax vestas. Jahncke Ltd was liquidated in 1963.

Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.

Offline mooreman

  • New Member
  • *
  • Posts: 47
Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2015, 06:44:32 AM »
I haven't seen that one before, nice, I`ve got most of the rest R4200-R4235,55. and R4270, R4400,  No German boxes, all past on.

Offline mooreman

  • New Member
  • *
  • Posts: 47
Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2015, 07:02:37 AM »
R4120 Prince of Wales or R4121 Prince of Wales`s, I `ll have a look later,  there is also a variation in size with these.

Offline malj1

  • Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6 778
  • "illegitimi non carborundum"
    • Mals Machine Tokens
Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2015, 08:06:08 AM »
As R4120 Prince of Wales box exactly as the one posted in Reply #9

Size is identical, just swapped the lid over and it fits the same, perhaps just a little better in fact and so easier to part.

Modifed the two images had them a little mixed.
Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.

Offline mooreman

  • New Member
  • *
  • Posts: 47
Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2015, 03:04:25 AM »
your in luck, I do have a spare top, you can have it for all the hard work that you do on this helpful site. Looking at forty + of boxes and100 + of coins, that I have makes me realise that the time to pass them on is close.   

Offline malj1

  • Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6 778
  • "illegitimi non carborundum"
    • Mals Machine Tokens
Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2015, 10:59:47 AM »
Thank you!

see the PM
Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.

Offline malj1

  • Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6 778
  • "illegitimi non carborundum"
    • Mals Machine Tokens
Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2015, 05:52:00 AM »
See Reply #13 another similar box has been for sale on ebay for a while, [just relisted] its a bit expensive.

This set has a fourth medal listing all the children to Prince Arthur who was born 1st May 1850.

The box must be a little deeper as there is certainly no room in my box for a fourth piece.

There is a problem with the last image on ebay.

Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.

Offline mooreman

  • New Member
  • *
  • Posts: 47
Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2015, 08:36:25 AM »
I have both of these Hope Boxes, the three medal one, and the four medal one R4155 which is deeper, 11mm high and still 28mm wide. Both boxes seem to have the same number, so a, and b, should be applied.
Here is some terrible pics of the Waterloo Box 22mm wide and 5mm deep, the medals are 9mm wide. This is quite rare as boxes go.
Pics coming as soon as I can get them compressed.

Offline mooreman

  • New Member
  • *
  • Posts: 47
Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2015, 11:18:40 AM »
 Waterloo Box
R280, 285, 286, 287, 288, and 289 which came from D Magnay.

Offline mooreman

  • New Member
  • *
  • Posts: 47
Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2015, 11:53:16 AM »
Just had a look at the relisted one on eBay, as you say a bit to much considering the loss of plating and it looks as though it is four box one. I would have had a go at it last time it was on, as I have a very nice full plated set of four, that I have been keeping, that needs a box.

Offline malj1

  • Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6 778
  • "illegitimi non carborundum"
    • Mals Machine Tokens
Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2015, 12:12:46 PM »
He has reduced the price with the relisting.

I have just scanned the article by John King from the Seaby bulletin of Nov. 1981 as this gives a lot of useful information on the Waterloo boxes.
Malcolm
Have a look at  my tokens and my banknotes.