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Offline mooreman

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Brass boxes (model coins)
« on: January 05, 2015, 08:38:05 AM »
I think it is time after a couple of years to breath a bit more life into this area of collecting again. The metals used seem to suggest that what ever was to hand in metal blanks stock, ie copper, brass, and of cause tin and brass for the coin boxes was used. Over the years I have had in my collection most of J. Moores work in so called toy coins and boxes.  The variations in metal used and dies used are  probable best illustrated by the model crown, copper brass, bronze, silver, and various plating's are evident. Dies are also legion
I know of a collector who collects the Windsor Castle Boxes, who has commentated that no two that he has are from the same die.
Tony Barters books on each of the model coin types, explains many variations and must be applauded for the hard work involved.
His books are on the net some ware, he gave me his first penny ones but I have been unable to find the rest to buy, which is only right considering the work that he put into that project. The dies for the more common  coins and boxes may well have been part of the training of apprentices, which would explain the variations. It would be interesting to know if the button making was the main stay of the business or did medals, toy coins, and coin boxes take over, remembering that J.Moore was known for his medal making.

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Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2015, 10:46:52 AM »
Were you thinking of this book?

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Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2015, 12:34:42 PM »
Volume 3 is here too.
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Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2015, 04:55:20 PM »
Thank you for pointing me in the right direction, I have vol 1,2,3, penny. I thought that he was going to do model crowns, still haven't been able to talk to him on the phone as it always seems engaged.  I see some one has found another G.Dee crown, that makes four, two more hiding some ware. Have you come across the Crystal Palace Medal Box, four medaletts, one side same as hope box other side view of Crystal Palace. The box made of brass with Prince Albert one side crystal palace on the other.

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Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2015, 05:46:23 PM »
Found photos of he Crystal Palace Box.

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Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2015, 09:02:44 PM »
I haven't seen the Crystal Palace Medal Box or its medalets. I do have a few boxes which I shall look out later today. [7am here]

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Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2015, 10:46:57 AM »
I know of a collector who collects the Windsor Castle Boxes, who has commentated that no two that he has are from the same die.

I have three Windsor Castle Boxes all different with one exceptionally different. All approx. 23.5mm.
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Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2015, 11:00:30 AM »
The Windsor Castle Box approx. 23.5mm, and the contents small medalets:

Two silvered brass 10.5mm:

VICTORIA REG: rev. BORN MAY 24 1819 CROWNED JUNE 28 1838

PRINCE ALBERT rev. BORN AUG 26 1819 MARRIED FEB 10 1838

[the children follow]


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Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2015, 11:05:22 AM »
The Royal children of Victoria:

8.5mm MEDALETS:

PRINCESS ROYAL rev. BORN NOV 21 1840
PRINCE OF WALES rev. ALBERT PRINCE OF WALES BORN NOV 9 1841
PRINCESS ALICE rev. PRINCESS ALICE BORN APRIL 25 1843
PRINCE ALFRED rev. PRINCE ALFRED BORN AUG 6 1844
PRINCESS HELENA rev. PRINCESS HELENA BORN MAY 25 1846
PRINCESS LOUISA rev. PRINCESS LOUISA BORN MARCH 18 1848

another for Prince Arthur exists but is rare.
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Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2015, 11:11:47 AM »
Prince of Wales crest [feathers] / THE PRINCE OF WALES BOX approx. 17mm
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Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2015, 11:13:13 AM »
PRINCE ALBERT'S SNUFF BOX. approx. 13.8mm
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Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2015, 11:14:01 AM »
QUEEN VICTORIA approx. 14mm
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Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2015, 11:17:15 AM »
Box for Moore's California models. c 1850. approx. 24mm

EMIGRATION TO CALIFORNIA / CALIFORNIA
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Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2015, 11:31:58 AM »
THE QUEEN PRINCE ALBERT AND BRITAIN'S HOPE approx. 28mm

Contains three white metal medalets 26.8mm:

H.M.G.M. QUEEN VICTORIA / EUROPE'S GLORY

H.R.H. PRINCE ALBERT /  ENGLAND'S PRIDE

BRITAIN'S HOPE / "THE WOODEN WALLS OF OLD ENGLAND"

Stolen and retrieved two years later; originally it had clear thin celluloid roundels between each piece to avoid rubbing, these were missing when returned.
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Re: Brass boxes (model coins)
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2015, 11:52:02 AM »
Good grief, Mal, what an amazing collection. That locomotive crowns it all. Love it!

What is the diameter of the snuff box?

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