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Request for help
« on: March 11, 2009, 12:46:08 PM »
I recieved this request for help from my website:
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I am hoping ou may be able tohelp me.  I am properties master for a production of of the play "Amadeus" by Peter Shaffer.  I have been searching the web endlessly for a pictureof the Salvator Medal that was awarded to Kepellmeister back in the 1800's in Austrai.  Do you know of a website that may have a photo of one? Thanks in advance.  Helen Lavis


Anyone know what she is talking about?  I don't.
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Re: Request for help
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2009, 02:34:08 PM »
Perhaps she is looking for an image of this medal.

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Re: Request for help
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2009, 06:58:29 PM »
Maybe, though it would have to be a much earlier version than 1914 ...

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Re: Request for help
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2009, 08:00:11 PM »
Try this link: http://www.verwaltung.steiermark.at/cms/ziel/10289516/DE/

There is also a picture of a Salvator-Medaille. Click on the "+" icons to view larger (though badly rasterized) photos.

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Re: Request for help
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2009, 03:30:21 AM »
Thanks guys!

I will pass the information along to her and see if it helps her.

I wonder if she is charged with making a stage prop for the play...
If so I wouldn't think an exact match would be necessary at all.

Thanks again!

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Re: Request for help
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2009, 09:35:56 AM »
If so I wouldn't think an exact match would be necessary at all.

Agreed. What is a little strange however: According to the link I posted, this Salvator-Medaille was awarded between 1850 and 1938, thus after the times of Mozart and Salieri. Then again, "Amadeus" is not really a history book anyway ...

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Re: Request for help
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2009, 09:36:50 PM »
So someone please educate me.  Wouldn't a Salvator medal be any medal showing a christ effigy?
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Re: Request for help
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2009, 11:27:16 PM »
So someone please educate me.  Wouldn't a Salvator medal be any medal showing a christ effigy?
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That's who the fellow shown on the two medals illustrated is meant to represent :-)


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Re: Request for help
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2009, 01:18:40 AM »
Well that isn't exactly what I meant.  I knew who was pictured. But I was asking if all medals depicting Christ are Salvator medals, isn't Salvator latin for Savior? 

However the lady asking the original question
seemed to be asking about a specific one.  Can it be known now who and when this Kepellmeister was
and what specifically he was given.  Seems nearly an impossible task to me with the little info given.

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Re: Request for help
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2009, 11:58:46 AM »
But I was asking if all medals depicting Christ are Salvator medals, isn't Salvator latin for Savior?

Sure, Salvator means Savior, but the term Salvator-Medaille does not refer to "any" medal that shows Christ. May well be that the term is somewhat common for other medals that also have the inscription SALVATOR (MUNDI), don't know. But when you talk about decorations in Austria, it seems quite obvious to me that Salvator-Medaille refers to the one that the city of Vienna awarded in the 19-20c. On this credits page http://www.verwaltung.steiermark.at/cms/beitrag/10022750/254643/ there is a reference to a Mr Harald Korn of the Vienna city administration, including an e-mail address. Maybe he can help, or the lady who asked you could contact a museum in Vienna ...

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Can it be known now who and when this Kepellmeister was and what specifically he was given.

That is the odd part; "Amadeus" is (somewhat loosely ;) ) based on the story of Salieri and Mozart. In German the word Kapellmeister (with an A) refers to an almost extinct combination of composer, arranger and conductor; Salieri was one, but not Mozart. However, neither of the two were still alive when this Vienna Salvatormedaille was first awarded. Hmmm.

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Re: Request for help
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2009, 05:36:10 PM »
Very educational.
Thanks Christian!