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Offline azzaro

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NZ Florin
« on: March 08, 2009, 05:04:40 AM »
I noticed on Ebay that a seller has a NZ Florin 1948 listed.

He states the book price is $25 (AUD?)

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-Zealand-Florin_W0QQitemZ320345706453QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Coins_World?hash=item320345706453&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318

What do forum members feel is a reasonable value for a coin from circulation

Heres the one I have

Thanks - azzaro

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Re: NZ Florin
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2009, 02:52:52 PM »
no, probably not

I have got a NZ catalogue (year 2000) that quotes it at NZD 1.00 in average to fine condition. in higher grades (EF and above) it is pretty valuable, however.

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translateltd

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Re: NZ Florin
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2009, 02:40:00 AM »
Current (2008) NZ catalogue value is NZ$25 in VF, though the example shown on the eBay auction looked to be in a somewhat lower grade than that. "Average circulated" quotes at NZ$3, which I suspect would be more realistic.


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Re: NZ Florin
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2009, 02:55:43 AM »
Thanks Martin for your reply

Would you consider my coin (as per photo) to be classed "Average circulated"?


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Re: NZ Florin
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2009, 06:09:40 PM »
The coins of George VI are easiest to grade by looking at the hair. Though the obverse of the coin on eBay is not shown, judging by the reverse, your coin is slightly less worn. I would grade your coin as F+ and the coin offered as F (reverse only). Remember that grading is a very personal impression.

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Re: NZ Florin
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2009, 06:49:13 PM »
Thanks Martin for your reply

Would you consider my coin (as per photo) to be classed "Average circulated"?



In terms of New Zealand cataloguing standards, yes.  "Ave Circ" is something of a movable feast, representing what you would expect a coin to have in terms of wear assuming normal circulation for its age.  Since your piece could theoretically have circulated for up to 58 years, F to F+ is about what you'd expect :-)


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Re: NZ Florin
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2009, 11:24:59 PM »
The 1940 looks not a bad example, but I'm not sure if I'd grade it US$69, all the same :-)

Let me know if you need a current NZ catalogue - the 2009 Premier should be out before too long and I can usually do a reasonable price (hope the commercial plug isn't out of order here!)


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NZ Florin.
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2009, 09:17:11 PM »
Azzaro,
  Two key dates that you have to look out for in the 2/- coin series are the 1946 'Flat Back' & the 1963 2/-.The latter has become very sought after in any grade,due to its pretty low mintage figure,but the prices in Krause for the 1963 are still an absolute joke!

Aidan.

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Re: NZ Florin.
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2009, 07:44:37 AM »

the prices in Krause for the 1963 are still an absolute joke!

Aidan.

Aidan,

Please provide me with some confirmed prices achieved on the market for the 1963 florin and I will make sure they are forwarded to SCWC with my next submission.  What happens after that will be out of my control, of course.


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Re: NZ Florin
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2009, 08:11:39 AM »
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Thanks for the info everyone.

Noticed.
1933 & 41 NZ Florin on EBAy asking $39 USD - one in poor condition. No offers as yet.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1933-41-NZ-Florin-Q-56-FREE-SHIPPING_W0QQitemZ270342704849QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item270342704849&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A2|240%3A1318

I'm still searching for the elusive 46 and 63 at the right price.
Whats the approx values ATM?

Thanks - Azzaro






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Re: NZ Florin
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2009, 05:39:10 PM »
The market for coins like these is probably too thin for a stable price. Catalogue quotes are a good beginning, but from there on, you are on your own. Read this thread for more information.

Peter
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New Zealand Florin.
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2009, 07:48:02 PM »
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Thanks for the info everyone.

Noticed.
1933 & 41 NZ Florin on EBAy asking $39 USD - one in poor condition. No offers as yet.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1933-41-NZ-Florin-Q-56-FREE-SHIPPING_W0QQitemZ270342704849QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item270342704849&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A2|240%3A1318

I'm still searching for the elusive 46 and 63 at the right price.
Whats the approx values ATM?

Thanks - Azzaro







Azzaro,
  That auction up on FleaBay raises a huge red flag with me.Both the 1933 & 1941 2/- are common coins.The 1933 is the commoner one of the two,being the very first date.

Aidan.

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Re: NZ Florin
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2009, 05:00:00 PM »
In fact the truth There is one type of variant of the New Zealand Florin is quite expensive, the Florin 1949, because the level of difficulty and very rarely found. Prices in catalogs Numismatic sometimes also made based on observation of several dealers who have clear Numismatic source.
So we must be careful in selling and buying. Many Numismatic Dealers who buy the cheaper price and then auctioned off with a fantastic price. Because they know that one florin 1949 coins rare and valuable.
So the catalog or the internet auction can not be the benchmark price and purchasing. One of the most effective way to learn selling and buying prices is that we must search for data from states that issue these coins and you will see the complete specifications of these coins, starting from the number printed, these coins materials and economic conditions when the coin is issued. So that we can get data to compare with the Catalogs and auction online/Internet.

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Re: NZ Florin
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2009, 05:30:21 PM »
In fact the truth There is one type of variant of the New Zealand Florin is quite expensive, the Florin 1949, because the level of difficulty and very rarely found. Prices in catalogs Numismatic sometimes also made based on observation of several dealers who have clear Numismatic source.
So we must be careful in selling and buying. Many Numismatic Dealers who buy the cheaper price and then auctioned off with a fantastic price. Because they know that one florin 1949 coins rare and valuable.
So the catalog or the internet auction can not be the benchmark price and purchasing. One of the most effective way to learn selling and buying prices is that we must search for data from states that issue these coins and you will see the complete specifications of these coins, starting from the number printed, these coins materials and economic conditions when the coin is issued. So that we can get data to compare with the Catalogs and auction online/Internet.


This is the second time I have seen this claim posted here: There were  3,500,000 of the 1949 florin minted; there are several other dates  that are rarer: as Translated mentioned  The 1946 flat back (estimated 300,000), also 1944, (140,000),  1942(150,000), 1940 (500,000) and the 1936 (150,000) the hardest to find in high grade is the 1936 Florin  value in BUC  NZ$8000.00. Renos78 some one has mislead you about the rarity and importance of the 1949 Florin.