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Re: 2015: Common "European Flag" €2 Issue
« Reply #45 on: May 30, 2015, 07:25:07 PM »
I was struggling to decide on which one I would vote, actually I found the winning design the least worse but it looked like the previous issue of 2009 and I don't want a trend. In the end I voted for it anyway. I am very curious to see how it will look like on the coin, for now I still think that the design on the 2012 10 years of euro cash coin is the best joint commemorative.

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Re: 2015: Common "European Flag" €2 Issue
« Reply #46 on: July 06, 2015, 11:17:34 AM »
Finland is going to issue their coin on 23 July. The coin will have a mintage of 500.000 pieces.

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« Reply #47 on: July 07, 2015, 07:21:22 AM »
Thanks for the update! Most of the countries have planned their issue in September / October I believe. I think it's better to get the entire set together instead of getting one/two coins together (if you are non EU collector). ;) Will we also see a Greek version of the same? ::)

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2015: Common "European Flag" €2 Issue
« Reply #48 on: July 29, 2015, 04:59:02 PM »
NBS approves the release of commemorative coin

29. Jul 2015 at 6:24

THE COUNCIL of the National Bank of Slovakia (NBS), the country’s central bank, approved the planned commission of commemorative €2-coins to mark the 30th anniversary of the European Union’s flag.

One million of the coins will be produced in the state-run Kremnica Mint (Banskα Bystrica Region), the TASR newswire reported.

The coin will have the same technical parameters as an ordinary €2-coin, and it will serve as a legally valid means of payment in Slovakia and the rest of the eurozone.

The commemorative coin, with the same motif designed by Greek artist George Stamatopoulos, will be released in all the eurozone countries, TASR reported.

Source: Spectator
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2015: Common "European Flag" €2 Issue
« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2015, 05:19:33 PM »
Mintage figures as reported by some dealers:

Finland: 489,000;
The Netherlands: 988,000;
Spain: 4,000,000;
France: 4,001,000;
Belgium: 400,000;
Germany: 30,000,000 (A + D + F + G + J);
Estonia: 350,000;
Greece: 748,500;
Ireland: 999,000;
Italy: 1,000,000;
Latvia: 1,010,000;
Lithuania: 750,000;
Luxembourg: 507,500;
Malta: 300,000;
Austria: Not known yet;
Portugal: 510,000;
Slovakia: 1,000,000;
Slovenia: 1,000,000;
Cyprus: 342,000.

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Re: 2015: Common "European Flag" €2 Issue
« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2015, 07:46:34 PM »
If the figures are largely correct, you are in luck if you live in a member state with a population of less than 3 million or Germany. Italians and Belgians are least likely to find a specimen in circulation. The figure in the total line in the column ratio is an average.

Peter

member-statepopulationmintageratio
Luxembourg549 680507 5000.923
Malta425 384300 0000.705
Latvia2 001 4681 010 0000.505
Slovenia2 061 0851 000 0000.485
Cyprus858 000342 0000.399
Germany80 767 46330 000 0000.371
Estonia1 315 819350 0000.266
Lithuania2 943 472750 0000.255
Ireland4 605 501999 0000.217
Slovakia5 415 9491 000 0000.185
Finland5 451 270489 0000.090
Spain46 512 1994 000 0000.086
Greece10 903 704748 5000.069
France65 835 5794 010 0000.061
Netherlands16 829 289988 0000.059
Portugal10 427 301510 0000.049
Belgium11 203 992400 0000.036
Italy60 782 6681 000 0000.016
Austria8 506 889
total337 396 71248 404 0000.265
« Last Edit: October 22, 2015, 11:35:31 PM by Figleaf »
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« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2015, 06:00:25 AM »
Interesting analysis, Peter! Many thanks for that! :)

The top two entries in the table (Luxembourg and Malta) do not issue the rolls of €2 commemorative coins for face value (they add VAT to it) and I'm not sure if they put commemorative €2 coins into circulation at-all. So in that case, it's extremely unlikely that you will find issues from these two countries in circulation...

I just noticed that I made a mistake in mentioning mintage for French issue. It's 4,010,000 (forgot one zero ;)). Now the ratio for the French issue becomes 0.06, still too small. Amended the post accordingly.

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Re: 2015: Common "European Flag" €2 Issue
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2015, 07:00:45 AM »
Not true for Luxembourg at least.
The VAT is charged only for international orders.
In local market, one does get commem coins in circulation, may be not that common but certainly more common than countries like Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand, Malaysia, UAE etc.
Note : all from first hand experience.

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« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2015, 09:46:58 AM »
Not true for Luxembourg at least.
The VAT is charged only for international orders.
In local market, one does get commem coins in circulation, may be not that common but certainly more common than countries like Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand, Malaysia, UAE etc.
Note : all from first hand experience.

Do you mean, when in Luxembourg, you can visit the central bank (or any other authorized distributor bank) and get a roll (€2 commemorative) for face value i.e. €50? The press releases by central bank always mention price including VAT, that's why I thought so...

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Re: 2015: Common "European Flag" €2 Issue
« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2015, 09:54:38 AM »
According to EU law, VAT is charged on all domestic sales. However, the VAT on coins changing hands at face is 0%. I got rolls of circulation (non-commemorative) coins at a bank in Luxembourg, but it was just what they happened to have in stock. A roll sold at an agio over face should attract VAT, even if it contains current coins, but not everyone is aware of that.

No idea how the commemoratives are distributed. Some member-states will distribute them in apparently recognisable rolls, others in non-recognisable rolls, others still will mix them with older coins, so getting a roll does not guarantee anything and people who don't care would put them into circulation.

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« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2015, 08:32:42 AM »
Mintage of Belgian issue will be 400,000 only. Updated my earlier post accordingly.

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« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2015, 09:25:59 AM »
Looking again at Peter's summary, it appears that the 2015 series will be perhaps the hardest series (in terms of numbers, not availability with dealers) among all similar series (2007, 2009 and 2012) issued since introduction of euro. Countries like Portugal, Italy, Malta etc. will be issuing two other €2 commemorative coins (apart from the flag issue) so three in total...busy year ahead! ::)

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« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2015, 05:37:35 PM »
Tentative issue dates:

Belgium: November 2015;
Germany: November 05, 2015;
Estonia: Not decided yet;
Finland: Issued!;
France: November 16, 2015;
Greece: Not decided yet;
Ireland: October 2015;
Italy: November 2015;
Latvia: November 2015;
Lithuania: November 2015;
Luxembourg: Not decided yet;
Malta: Not decided yet;
The Netherlands: OCtober 2015;
Austria: November 2015;
Portugal: November 2015;
Slovakia: September 2015;
Slovenia: Not decided yet;
Spain: October 2015;
Cyprus: Not decided yet.

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Re: 2015: Common "European Flag" €2 Issue
« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2015, 05:47:31 PM »
Germany: 5 November 2015

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« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2015, 05:57:19 PM »
Thanks! Updated my previous post. :)

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